The times they are a changin...regarding Duel Tournaments for cash prizes in WoW

my issue is its been 15 years,lol, you get the burn out from time to time.

I used to put in stupid hours in the first 4 years, just cannot do that anymore, one I am getting too old for it, and two, there is other stuff that I would like to do as well.

Streamere groupies, streamer haters, people in the middle who don’t care but are sarcastic rectums < that one is me.

The issue was always automated punishments and the very real potential for abuse.

No one has changed their tune on that issue, because the idea of reporting people for breaking the rules was never in contention.

I got over 25 characters on live there, i thought i wouldbe taking classic casually, but then 5 of my friends from back in the day messaged me on FB and say yo you gona tank for us right?
So, so much for casual lol

what I find odd is that neither of the Tauren were DCd from RcR, seems like this would have been a perfect example.

Yah i think i am around that many, mostly did more to play Garrison craft and Class Hall craft to get gold though.

I am 100% casual this expansion honestly though.

The report system has never worked on any WoW beta, as far as I know. It’s a big complaint people have, actually. They go onto the forums to complain about someone doing something or another because they can’t file reports.

Aside, of course, the numerous threads who wanted to get rid of right-click report in its entirety, and the change was that they should drop the squelching instead.

I suspect those are different people arguing very different points, then.

If they actually desire to remove the ability to right-click to report, it’s probably to diminish the ease of reporting people, leading to numerous false reports or reports of benign actions that aren’t against any rules.

Most people, when they say “RCR,” mean the automated punishment system. It’s a bit of a misnomer, so I can almost guarantee most of the folks asking for it to be removed were talking about the automated punishments, not the right clicking.

Yea the point then was that the classic servers should be self policing with black listing.

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Really? let me check, nope it is in there. nm, odd

Some people talked about how “ignoring people will suffice” without really understanding how limited ignore was, especially when considering a few dozen, to a few hundred to a couple thousand players.

“We have blacklists, so we can show people how realms could take care of themselves.” Same issue with the tournament and the duel system.

Others did go on about how the automated punishment system could be abused, and that is valid, but the benefit of the right-click report itself can’t be understated.

I certainly wish I had that ability in Vanilla.

as do i, we had many many salty people who would spread misinformation and try to get my entire guild blacklisted. thankfully for us none of the Bs caught on but a few members did get camped a lot after someone ‘‘dissapeared’’ of the server

It’s there, but does it work?

If you’re having to ignore hundreds or thousands of players, I think you might need a thicker skin.

What issue?

If the benefit is the convenience of reporting people, yeah.

I don’t think that’s fostered a very good community. People are much quicker to report someone when all it takes is a few clicks.

Making it easier to report someone who might be disruptive is worth the possiblity of some innocence getting caught in the system if it means we have a cleaner chat, obviously it wont work that well given retail is still just as ‘‘toxic’’ depending on the server you’re on. As a person who plays on Area-52 horde myself it can go from a welcoming hilarious :poop: post to people ranting about trump real fast. but it’ll be cleaner than it would be without it.

no, i should have used edit-- that’s why i said odd.

Or you’ve never experienced how bad it could get actually get.
Argent Dawn had an issue of people from the Blackrock PvP server rolling level 1s and spamming and trolling hard because they were “protesting” that their realm was unstable and crashed frequently. And this was back in the days when there wasn’t a 2 post per minute cap in Trade or general. And if it wasn’t Blackrock, it was another PvP realm copycatting them and doing the same thing.

Seeing nothing but “BLACKROCKDOWN” spam from several dozen players at one time constantly gets old pretty quick.

So, when all of these people talk about how they’re afraid of trolls, I have no real sympathy for it, not when there are steps in game that protect the players.

i don’t often agree with Ohshiftson but,nah i agree this time. ya’ll do need a slightly thicker skin.

you know esports them things WITH BLIZZARDS PERMISSION TO USE THE GAME as a tornament

Once again, you speak of something you didn’t experience. This is “worst case scenario” - the streamer crowd is not dissimilar in this regard.

https://www.engadget.com/2014/10/08/wow-archivist-class-protests-and-the-million-gnome-march/

Some folks only saw this sort of thing once or twice on the recent stress tests, but this would happen in Vanilla, and what many of the folks here fear from “Retail Trolls.” Except this was routine, every tuesday, or every other day, this would happen, except it was a large number of players protesting their server dying by invading someone else’s server and causing an issue.