The Ridiculous State of BG/Honor Farming (Math)

That’s great, do you intentionally try to out-douche yourself with each post? Like I said you can pull those numbers and the other guy can pull his. He shows lower you show higher.

Back to the point of winning was always low honour gains, then honour per kill must be off. Someone else agreed then you posted about 21 honour pet kill.

So I logged into a BG and ended up getting 3, 4 , and sometimes 7 per kill. Mostly 3’s per kill. I realize this isn’t solo kills, alas this whole topic is about BGs though so I’m not sure where this solo kill stuff is coming from or whether it’s relevant.

I’m guessing this is diminishing returns, which should not be in 2.4.3. Or just very low honour for kills compared to the 21 you posted, which isn’t in a BG btw.

I don’t need to post potato-cam images from some nobody’s feed either, you can log in and check it out yourself.

For testing purposes join EotS and let us know if your honour per kill differs from mine.

Honor is split between nearby raid members, always has been. You should really learn the basics before trying to argue on these forums.

The honor in TBC Classic is accurate to original TBC.

Care to explain for the rest of us smooth brains where the videos of people getting 30-40 honor per kill are from and what the deal with the patch notes is?

There is clear evidence that there should be no DR on honor gains until someone has died 50x in a BG.

So which one is it?

There are no videos from original TBC of 70 vs 70 PvP showing 30-40 honor per kill. The one video linked over and over again was from the first week of the pre-patch when Blizzard was dealing with display issues and bugs from the removal of the original honor system.

Go look for yourself. Every single video from 2007-2008 will show a maximum of 21 (20.9) honor a kill.

There isn’t, go check for yourself. Look at your honor and then go find a player and solo kill them twice.

Regardless if this was in TBC or not. This grind needs a rework. Now

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Imma straight up preach the truth. Back the the day pvp gear was considered welfare epic due to how easy it was to get. Now PvE is producing welfire epics due to how faceroll the content is.

This why no one plays Defense and it breaks the game. No one plays to win. Why reward 3 marks anymore? Why play Defense and lose 50-100 extra honor just being around someone that dies. How do you defend this honor design?

ya honor isnt bad 1 bit. its a que time issue 100%

check the thread that was linked. Also he’s confused on what the issue is and his links aren’t on topic of what is being said. The honor is not that low all of tbc AND we are on 2.4.3 with a mismatch of decisions on what to add / take away. They chose to give us the worst form of honor gain. You and him alike should go reread what is stated.

Confirmation bias, look it up.

You’re refusing to acknowledge that the thread was misinformation laid out in a convincing manner.

Who cares what honor gains were like in tbc? It’s horrible now. Trying to farm honor gear is a horrible experience all around.

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Firstly, thank you @dopehaus for the time/math you took out to address this issue.

I can’t believe how casuals/people who don’t have 40+ hours a week to commit to wow are getting honor gear. There NEEDS to be a change with honor.

  1. Bring back HvH
  2. Buff the daily quest to 2,000 honor per win. This promotes people “trying” to win the bg and not afking/etc. Also would help casuals be able to gear somewhat more reasonably…
  3. Buff overall honor by like 50%…or just reduce the cost of gear…

Gearing for PvP shouldn’t be such a time gate. People that PvP just want resil to fight one another. Make it happen blizzard.

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I read somewhere that in the old TBC days you’d get better HPH, horde and alliance side, from AV rush games. Now AV is extended and it’s not great HPH. The alliance doesn’t even want to bother with it for the most part. Note that I do think longer AV games are more fun.

I too remember getting my TBC PVP blues quickly. I have screenshots showing the same bonus honor amounts as we are getting today and also showing AVs lasting 10-12 minutes each.

With that being said I’m sure the AV thing was battlegroup dependant.

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