See this guy was involved and knows what he is talking about.
Cata effectively ended twinking due to changes, mainly the imbalanced scaling they screwed up. It created demi gods in the bracket.
and it didnt just screw up twinking, those demi gods ruined your leveling bgs all xpac.
You are a confused person.
You made a blanket accusation of ad hom. I said you dont know ad hom because I know I had not used it.
You asked how you used it wrong, to which I need you to actually find an example that you think is ad hom so I can explain it to you.
Just one example. Any example. I even said if it turns out to be ad hom ill admit it. but i dont think you can find one.
BFA? This happened in Wrath lmao
It happened twice. Once was semi-recently in BFA.
I have barely touched BFA so you are going to have to explain this one a little more to me. Are you saying they segregated twink in wrath, brought them back into normal BGs at some point (as far as I am aware, this never happened) and then separated them again in BFA?
Yup that’s pretty much it
At what point did they let twinks back in normal BGs?
Not sure the exact expac but it lasted a good while. Maybe end of wod or legion?
Twinks are still in bgs right now btw. lvl 20 twinks who let their sub expire and play as f2p (same bracket as exp-on players) absolutely dominate the 20-29 bracket. It’s total carnage for non-twinks.
I just did some quick searching and I couldn’t find anything saying twinks were ever let back into BGs at any point, I am not saying you are wrong, but I feel like I would have heard about this. I did play very little during legion though, so I guess it is possible, but the fact that Latest and Equalsthree never brought it up when we were talking about twinks being dead since (in their opinion) Cata makes me feel like it never happened.
And I just leveled up a Dark Iron Dwarf through nothing but BGs and I never saw any twinks, I got top of the charts everytime in nothing but looms and drops from BGs they are still relegated to XP off BGs
I don’t care if you believe me or not, it happened. lvl 119 twinks especially were thriving in the exp on queues.
Go into the Bg forums and search ‘xp off’ or twinks.
Here’s one (march this year) XPOFF XPON Separate new patch?
I said twinks died in Cata due to scaling issues that got way out of control with low brackets.
They did make a little comeback in MoP in the xp off brackets, and I played for a few months. Queues happened fairly regularly. 10-15m queues.
I quit in WoD so not sure whats up now. I tried BFA 3 day free trial and low level felt like hot garbage so I dont imagine twinks are a thing, but i could be wrong.
I am not saying I don’t believe you, you could be right for sure. I just find it odd that no one in this entire discussion has brought up twinks being let back into normal BGs.
The bg forums were spammed with twinking threads for months after the xp on / off queues got separated (again) in the March patch. Go look at that 168 page thread I linked.
I would be happy with any twink bracket.
What a lot of people dont understand is that one motivation for twink pvp is not being caught up in the gear treadmill cylce and just being able to chill out and pvp.
Some people need the treadmill as a reason to play, but a lot of people hate the treadmill
It looks like from reading it that most people didn’t know if it was a bug or intended? I just skimmed over it though. If BGs did get put back together for xp off and on, that was just a terrible decision by blizzard, and they must have thought so too since it didnt seem to last long before they separated them again.
Well anyway here’s a blue post on it
So they merged the queues again at the start of legion then disabled them for the second time in march 2019 BFA.
ah ok that makes sense. Another reason why legion was the worst Xpac imo. That hurt both anti twinks and pro twinks, lose/lose situation.
Just. One. More. Post.
Twinking is evil.
Playing in the 49 bracket for years, I can absolutely tell you that we wanted to play other twinks. There was a reason that many people transferred to the Ruin battlegroup, and more specifically, to horde Mannoroth to join is in Lolbster. Any given night we had 3-4 full 10 player groups battling the many allince guilds that had cropped up like DWRA on Medivh.