The real issue with paying to dupe characters into TBC

Why has no one mentioned the biggest issue with paying to dupe into TBC is that… you are paying to dupe into TBC… people get banned for duping items/gold via exploits and its now a payed service.

Imagine a scenario where I have 10k gold and am in a guild of 50 similar players… I accumulate the total wealth of all the players in my guild on one character (gold and inventory) and then pay to duplicate that into the other game mode. One games economy is getting wrecked by doing this… depending on how its done, if its not a universal snapshot of every character at a single point in time being taken it could be magnitudes worse (if I can accumulate then copy… then redistribute and someone else can copy).

Can solve it, just don’t copy mail.

Everyone pools their gold to 1 character on 1 account before snap-shot
They pay for that character to be in both Classic and TBC to get the gold on both
They mail the gold to the next person
Oops, mail doesn’t get copied so no duplication

Let’s wait until Blizzard comes out with the specific details about the character clone paid option before we jump to conclusions. They’re probably seriously considering the aspects of it that can be abused, I’m sure they’re very well aware of its abuse potential.

Blizzard has already stated it is a universal snap shot at the moment the realms go down for prepatch. Anything you do after that moment doesn’t matter because the clone is coming from that snap shot not the current version of your character.

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Duping items and gold on the same server is NOT a paid service.

It is. Blizzard said that during Blizzcon. At one point when all servers are down, Blizzard will snapshot everything (all characters, all servers). No character before or after that is “copied”. Instead, when you log back in, you choose TBC or Classic for that character. If you pay an extra fee, you can have both.

So if Gnomey on Rrrr had 7K yesterday, Gnomey can have 7K on the TBC server Rrrr, and Gnomey can have 7K on the Classic ERA server Rrrr. But no Gnomey ever gets 14K gold.

And if everyone in the guild gives Gnomey their gold, then they all start TBC and/or Era with no gold. There is no “copy”.

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That’s not how it will work though. Let’s say the prepatch came out on Tuesday. Servers go down at 8 let’s say… Your character at that moment is unplayable (no server). Blizz then copies your character and the 10k gold he has to a classic realm and upgrades the current server to tbc prepatch…

Servers come back up… You login like normal and the world is tbc… You have 10k gold… You make 5k more by the end of prepatch… Well you go to the classic realm and you only have 10k as if prepatch never happened.

You can’t every recopy the characters.

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Your theory is wrong, duping is creating a copy of something that already exists, in this instance Classic and TBC don’t exist in the same reality. Therefore the foreseen and imagined conjecture cannot take place.

It’s not even a theory, though. Hell, it doesn’t qualify as a hypothesis, as that’s an “educated guess” by definition. :smiley:

If you want to debate semantics we’ll call it speculation

I’m pretty sure it is.

The only thing I can see happening is that you send all your gold to the character you want to copy. It’s likely most people are moving on to TBC. So they might have one rich character in Classic. Since the economy is already whack, it’s not gonna matter.

Dude, I was backing you up. :slight_smile:

How does it ruin the economy?

If they didn’t give it you, all that gold would still transfer over.

If i had one wish, might it be selfish, it would be for there to be a very strict limit on the amount of gold that can be brought onto TBC server instances by means of copy.

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Yeah as far as I can tell the only “advantage” you could give someone based on how they implement it is if someone asks friends that aren’t going to copy if they can borrow their gold before the snapshot occurs. This way that individual will have more money and can give the borrowed gold back after the copy.

However if both players wanted to copy they wouldn’t leave with a higher total net gold.

The TBC economy is going to be wrecked either way, and anyone that’s played through classic enough knows it already. Fresh servers, gold cap, adding additional gold sinks etc… only delay the inevitable or are a band-aid solution to a problem that’s not going to just go away.

How are you going to dupe the gold if snapshot is taken at one point at night and the you cannot log in until you get the option to move over?

Since everyone MUST do the thing before they can continue they cannot just pass gold to dupe anything in either direction.

It is.

Pay to duplicate? Where are you getting this madness from? There is no “duplicate”.

The day the pre-patch hits is the day your character has a snap shot taken. When you log into any of your characters you have to chose to continue on your current server in TBC or play on Classic servers. Whatever you have in your inventory the at the time the snap shot is taken is what you’ll have in TBC or Classic or both.

There is no going back to your character in a pre-patch state to move gold around.

It is selfish why do you get to decide how much gold I get to keep? You’d certainly not set the cap at an amount significantly higher than the amount of gold you already have. Why do you care how much gold I have?

Yea man. Literally no one has mentioned this. You are the only one who has ever thought of this. You should write books.

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Only way it could be duped is if they allow charactera from classic to be copied after they do the snapshot i.e with the paid copy service