It’s not the event and lore that’s being objected to here. It’s the aspect of it where you drag players into PvP regardless of their PvP settings. For some people, though, the event is pointless if they can’t attack other players because “realism.” Never mind the fact that every single raid boss in the game stares blankly at a wall waiting for 25 players to get their 
together before waking up and fighting. Never mind that you can summon a mount out of thin air as soon as you’re outdoors. Never mind that your skill with a weapon counts for 1% of your DPS while the rest of it lies with the weapon’s quality. As soon as we ask that player-controlled zombies should only be able to attack players with war mode enabled, suddenly that’s not reeeealiiiiistiiiiic!!!
Nice tantrum, sounds like you need to get over it and accept it
yeah and you are like the kids taking over streets, not letting people do their thing because you want to cause as much violence as possible.
I just want to do my thing without being harassed by you.
Your only objective is to harass me and stop me from doing what I want - in game. Thats griefing. There is no way for any reasonable adult to allow that. That why we have thing like police to stop mobs from taking over and screwing with the normal people. We expect blizzard to handle things like that. They dang well do on the forums. Say the wrong name of a football team its a week silence. Corpse camp someone in a PvE zone - who cares. Blizzard has their values all backwards. Let people talk but let them be left alone in game.
You would think in today environment with an pandemic where many people lost their jobs, or cant even go out, where you have violent rioters in many cities destroying everything and crazy people pulling folks out of their vehicles and beating them senseless Now might not be a good time to do the same type of activities in game. Why cause a pandemic, and let griefers shut down roads and stop your players from doing the things they usually do?
People come to WoW for an escape from RL issues. Blizzard is re-creating them in game.
No, my only objective is to get you to be reasonable.
blizzard have decided how they want to run the event.
they changed it so people don’t complain the same way they did last time, and somehow that’s still not good enough for you.
now you’re just being WAAAY overly dramatic.
why is it so hard for you to avoid the zones while it’s active?
SO lets look at it this way.
I could demand the entire PVP part of the invasion go away.
I could demand that I can PvP anywhere I want and force others to participate.
or
I could demand PvP take place in the PvP shard and not in the PvE shard.
Reasonable is when we Both compromise and we both get a chance to play they way we want.
Being unreasonable is demanding I get my way, and you choices are I won this spot of land and you leave or you cant play.
Also, are you so out of touch you do not see the chaos going on in our streets? 2 miles from me a major riot broke out. People were killed. I cant go to that part of my city even to this day because of violence.
These real life things are hurting many people in real ways. The doctors are even talking about how the confinement is worse than the pandemic and people are killing themselves for being locked up. I haven’t worked in 6 months. I got no unemployment. I am living on food stamps and my sons disability because of this. Once a month I go to the food pantry near my apt. The only time I have EVER been out of work was when I got downsized and paid 7 months salary.
which is exactly why the event is being done in waves.
you can do your thing while it’s not active.
the part you are missing is saying PvP only happens every few hours misses the point.
PvP without consent is not acceptable.
They can try to put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.
Most PvE players do NOT want to PvP. You seem to ignore this fact.
In your drive to have players to gank (because we both know if it goes to war mode, only people like you will be there and there will be no victims. Just people who want to grief. That is exactly why you only stance is I have to PvP in the PvE shard. Nothing else is acceptable to you
all pve players can choose to avoid the area while it’s happening. you seem to ignore this fact.
the warmode thing isn’t going to happen.
and why do you keep making personal attacks against me?
you seem to think i designed this or something… and that I’M the one causing you all this distress over nothing.
no, my stance is that you can completely avoid the area while it’s happening, if you don’t want to participate.
You are the one completely defending that PvP players should be able to attack PvE players without provocation or choice. Your stance is Other players SHOULD be able to negatively control what I do in my game on my time. You see absolutely no issue with that.
Like I said, if anything were done like this on the forums people would be gone, yet Blizzard seems to want to encourage it in game. Would it be fair is I started trolling or throwing out real life threats and said if you don’t like it go to another thread? No way. People should be able to do what they want to do without some jerk ruining their playtime.
Lets do a re-cap of Blizzard though.
- You guys all have phones right
- Burning of Teldrassil
- Super Queen Sylvanas
- More powerful than a god Nathanos.
- The Horde is nothing!
- Wait that was Queen Ashara?
- Wait that was an old god?
- Bolvar got punked?
And now, you want to bring back the most hated event in game. Where you tube streams pulled up posts from the old message boards confirming my memories of how much it was hated by mostly everyone including me.
I don’t hate Blizzard, I want them to do well but this event, during this time, played as close as it is to last time is just a Bad decision.
Yeah I hate it. I will get through it again. I might even laugh as the forums and call centers explode with contacts.
In the end its Blizzard’s choice but I will argue against it as long as people try to argue with me for it. There is NO WAY most of us care bears will be ok with this event. Just like last time. Lipstick or no
It was! I was shocked at first and confused that I was stuck! And then I laughed pretty hard!
I was on a roof in Darkshire, I think it was Madama Eva’s house or next to it. It was the building next to the flight path but down the hill from it. I got my lvl 11 Priest self to Darkshire and was having trouble seeing everything going on, so i got on said roof. There were a lot of awesome lvl 50s fighting the zombies and it was pretty cool. I started buffing people and trying to heal but I only had a small heal at that lvl lol. I was in the chimney for a hot minute before one of the big Frost Wyrms came by and aoe’d everything. That killed me and I was glad to get out of the chimney lol.
There was a Worgen DK there using his Control Undead skill to keep the Frost Wyrm on a leash but he had to log off at the point where i got stuck. It was super cool seeing that Worgen control the zombie dragon and making it fight for us!! He did a good job helping out.
#PTR Zombie Invasion Adventures!
nope, you’re in such a blind rage, that you can’t see that i’m not advocating for that.
no, that’s not my stance, but you’ve somehow convinced yourself it is.
How about you stop being angry at me, and be angry at Sylvanas?
She’s the one who is responsible.
Not me.
Not the players.
ohhh.
i see.
i don’t agree with you, so you think i’m trolling… or somehow threatening your life.
if you believe your life is in immediate danger, i urge you to call your local law enforcement.
Thankfully, this event won’t disrupt peoples playtime unless the individuals allow it.
huh?
you’ve lost me.
i don’t know how any of that is relevant to your current issue.
again, I’m not the one to blame.
“during this time”.
gee, it’s almost as if this was planned way prior to there being a global pandemic (which doesn’t involve zombies)
meanwhile, you play a game which centers around murder and genocide, but you’re ok with that.
yep, the forum will be hilarious.
…and as for call centers, there are none.
there’s nobody for people to call because a big bad meanie made them pixel dead, because they chose to put themselves among the fray.
that was a bit of a spoiler alert for me!
i don’t remember these guys being involved last time
this sounds like fun… i want a wyrm on a stick!! 
Not in any rage, just disagreeing.
I am angry at those who feel the right to have control over others playtime. If I can kill you or force you to go to a different area, that’s just wrong. Why should anyone else have control over what I do, without my consent?
I only care about the players who abuse the mechanics of the event to harass other players. No one cares about Sylvanas or NPCs. Just people who want to harass other players for Forcing PVP in a PvE shard.
Do you have no reading comprehension or can you not understand comparisons? I pointed to griefing or trolling on the forums to greifing or trolling in this event. One Blizzard actively reaches out to punish, one they seem to actively try to encourage. 
Sure, like I used above. Should Blizzard take the stance of telling other posters to just go to another thread is some troll is out of control harming its customer’s experience?
But you are the demanding there be no change. Like I have said to several times, you shut up, I shut up. you cant so I don’t. My opinion is as valid as yours and as much as you keep trying you cant “bully” me into shutting up. Your name is ironic is it not?
if you’re in the area, you consent.
you don’t have a whole lot of rights in pixelworld.
well you should.
…because this is her doing.
major cities are not in a pve shard.
the forum and the game have a different rule set.
…because they’re totally different animals.
i’m not demanding anything.
i just don’t see the point in the event to being pushed back, by the game needing to be re-designed to cater to the few people who lack the self-control to avoid the areas being attacked.
but… you’re not the boss of the forum.
you don’t get to tell me i can’t have an opinion.
all opinions are valid from the stand-point that it’s an opinion.
…but it doesn’t mean they’re right.
i find it to be quite repulsive that you’d try to compare pixels to a real-world pandemic.
people are dying, people are ending up disabled, losing their families, their livelihoods, and you want to try and use this as leverage as to why an event shouldn’t happen in a game.
no, it’s not.
i’m not going to be bullied into submission.
So you fail to understand the RL pressures people are under and want to take away what is the only outlet for several of these people? Imagine being stuck at home 4 6 months and your only outlet is WoW. Then some gankers feel their couple weeks of ruining other people playtime is so important that yours doesn’t matter.
Nice trying to turn it around. You sir, are playing the part of the bully, just as the gameplay you are defending in game is. Bullies want to stop other people from having fun just like the gankers.
i’ve been housebound for a whole lot longer than 4 to 6 months with very few outlets.
…but relying on a singular source to keep you entertained, isn’t healthy for the mind.
(and didn’t you mention that you had children at home?)
why are you pretending people are “gankers” just because they want to enjoy a slightly different experience within the game?
from my standpoint, you are being the bully.
you are wanting everything to stop to suit you, regardless of anyone elses opinion or feelings.
so you admit that you’re being a bully?
i’m glad we can agree on that!
Nice mental gymnastics.
Which is a bully tactic?
- Can I please be left alone and not be attack by other players?
- This is my city, if you come in I am gonna attack you. You either get killed or go somewhere else.
Neither, because they’re both differing opinions on an event instigated by the developers of this game.
The point of this event is to grief. Someone telling you they’re gonna do the thing Blizzard is encouraging them to do is not bullying.
Which s the objective of this thread. TO let Blizzard KNOW of our displease yet again to get them to avoid making the same mistake as last time.
Blizzard should not be encouraging this type of behavior. Like I said in my comparison, they fight it on the forums, why do they push it in game?
No one is bullying you in-game. No one is pestering you to stay in Orgrimmar and be subjected to all of the chaos. You can easily leave.
Do you know what bullying means?
i don’t see how this is a “bully tactic”.
it’s part of the story, so it’s part of the game.
if we go to areas which are being impacted by the scourge, we’re gonna get… scourged.
yes, yes you can.
the choice is completely yours.
there’s an entire world, with multiple land masses and continents where you can safely continue on your merry way, but for some reason, it seems you want to put yourself in the one place you don’t want to be.
??