Hmm… did i though:
Nope. I didn’t. You may not hear what i’m saying, or what he’s saying, but that doesn’t mean that they’ve ever said we’d get Vanilla with sprinkles, because they haven’t. They explicitly said Vanilla. Not cookies and cream, or any other dessert. No sprinkles. Vanilla.
That’s what people cheered for. That’s what they expect to get. But they won’t, not like this.
This thread hasn’t changed my opinion about layering, but it HAS made me hungry for pizza and ice cream. Thanks, you jerks. ![:drooling_face:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/drooling_face.png?v=6" ":drooling_face:")
They did. People played it for a decade despite concerted attempts by Blizzard to shut them down.
A video game isn’t the same thing as a pizza where you pay for the entirety of it and it’s made to your order.
They don’t get to make a different pizza for every customer that’s custom tailored to what they want. They get to make 1 pizza, and everybody has to enjoy that or not eat there.
And you’re getting it. FFS, layering and right click reporting doesn’t change class design. It doesn’t change the instances your’e going to do. It doesn’t change the raids. It doesn’t change the quests. It doesn’t change the mobs.
You’re making a big deal over absolutely NOTHING. Seriously, just play the game and you’ll forget about all of it.
Yes you did, because in every interview after and even the next blizzcon they talked about Classic more and what changes would be there. The didn’t even promise straight vanilla in the announcement. He just used a really clever analogy to do the announcement.
Unfortunately only could give this one like. Couldn’t agree more with what you said.
This is the correct take
The main problem I have with posts like this is we have only experienced the Beta and stress tests. Classic hasn’t even been officially launched yet. And I don’t understand the hate towards layering. Is it really that bad of a thing?
He also explicitly said without the launch experiences of Vanilla.
I just called Domino’s to order a pizza with anchovies, vanilla ice cream and chocolate sprinkles. They hung up on me. It was classic.
I didn’t mean open a papa johns and call it papa jons instead. I meant make your own game. The fact that they’re even bringing this game back in an atmosphere that is not pirated, is ethical, and legal, not to mention the support that will be offered and the overall stability is astonishing and something we should welcome with open arms.
There are technical difficulties people don’t understand, which is why people throw a fit. They throw a fit because they have no clue how the stuff works. It’s the same as when I started my IT career and worked for an Internet company. I would receive calls that the Internet is slow, and it turns out they’d be using a NIC only capable of 56mbps, or their router was in a basement with a layer of concrete on the ceiling and they wondered why in the world their network is slow on the second floor. I would try to explain, but most of the time they didn’t want to hear it. Because they know it’s slow and it “should just be fast, because I’m paying for it so it should work.” Similar things happen here all the time and it’s usually pure nonsense.
There is a ton that goes into making any software, let alone accurately porting things from 15 years ago into modern computer systems. If there is a change, it’s probably for the better and we probably don’t know any better because we actually have zero experience running a software company. So, instead of trying to figure out why things are the way they are, most of us just throw a fit and demand that the game stays the way it was… which is sad.
Which is why, if you really dislike something, hey, do it yourself. Make your own game. I’m sure you (not you personally) can do it better, considering you know so much about it, right?
Right and this is a good point. This is one example of service management decisions. They have two choices: implement the layering system they did, and have a smoother launch.
OR, keep Classic the way it was, but this time at launch there are going to be way more people on. This could cause a lot of issues, and everyone would be back here with their pitchforks.
So, they have to decide, which one is going to cause less pitchforks. What is going to be better for everyone? What is going to cause the least amount of issues?
They decided that layering in the initial phases would cause less problems. Most of the people crying are crying about something they haven’t even experienced yet. Why don’t we stop worrying about those things, because people who have experience in the field are making those decisions to keep things stable and flow well.
You’re all probably the same person who argues with your doctors diagnosis. If you think you’re qualified to make decisions like that, why don’t you just sign up to be a doctor then?
I get what you’re saying but that pizza actually sounds kind of good haha
you forgot to add that they removed unarmored epic mounts op
No, i and many others who aren’t easily fooled or settle for less won’t get the same game Blizzard has advertised to release on the 27th August. If you’re at this point still gonna argue it doesn’t change the game, you have your blinders on so hard, nothing i explain to you is even gonna reach you anymore.
You clearly lack basic understanding of how layering works even after many discussions and explanations, or you’re just willfully ignorant. I’d like to believe it’s the latter, but i’m starting to be convinced it’s the first.
We’ve already proven and shown how layering changes the game. Just cause you deny it doesn’t mean it’s not there. Because it is, and it’s gonna cause a PR disaster once people see it in action on launch and beyond.
Blizzard said to deliver the game in such a state, that if people took a long nap for 15 years and would wake up in 2019 to Classic, they wouldn’t know the difference. People expect Blizzard quality.
Layering is gonna provide ANYTHING but that. We’ve got big sharding in Classic, which diminishes the games main feature (THE WORLD of Warcraft and its COMMUNITY) into an insignificant part of the game for weeks or months.
And as a player you’re gonna see its effects all the time just by playing in the world, which is obviously gonna present itself as changed in the worst form possible for Classic.
Except i won’t, because i saw this tool work ingame and it was a terrible experience and nothing like old WoW.
Everything else was fine, but this was a big stain on the game and it will be much more so in live when there’s even more people, most of which still don’t know about this going into the game, or how it actually looks like when you play.
Yes, and no one asked for those experiences back. NO ONE is asking for a timemachine. People just want the old game back. That means, the game, as in, a recreation of Vanilla.
It’s that simple. And one seamless World was a MAIN FEATURE of that game.
The launch will not be the same as in 2004, because we are in 2019 with huge advancements on both Blizzards and users end in terms of tech. This alone will already ease the launch by miles.
Then they also have different options to approach launch, none of which require layering to be used. It’s a choice they made, and it goes against everything they said they’d use as their philosophy to guide them to create Classic as the game people loved and remembered.
Pretty much why Blizzard is losing players in every single franchise.
They work off the motto of well if 85% of the players hate it, we’ll just sale more mounts to the 15% that keep playing.
One of these things is not like the others, one of these things just doesn’t belong…
Specifically, the last one named is a 180 swerve from the first four: suddenly the problem is that they didn’t change something you wanted changed. What?