I am very curious about what everyone else thinks. Why did the titans build the prisons for the Old Gods with a key/unlock/override to allow for said old god in said prison to have the ability to be freed.
I understand that by building a lock it will in turn have a key but you would have expected them to simply have built it to be permanent. So why then would the prison for N’Zoth, and possibly the rest, have a way for the prisons to be opened by design?
A) Plot.
B) Presumably, the Titans believed, at some point, they could kill the Old Gods without hurting Azeroth and likely wanted the prisons to be able to be opened once they figured out how.
Old gods are parasites, and need to be killed at some point. It burrows into the planet to keep it hostage while imprisoned.
But, give the Old god a reason to crawl out Say become free With the tools to kill them, it works out fine.
Besides, this lock was clearly designed for only titans to be able to open it up…Sadly, we used Azeroth as the opener.
I’m reminded of a quote from a book.
“The world is not perfect. As such, in everything I craft, I must place some manner of flaw.”
So, instead of a permanently unlockable room, they created a jail cell.
Though its also possible it wasnt designed to be unlocked and nzoth simply found a brute force approach to busting the doors wide open.
Well, from what I can tell, the Heart of Azeroth just nuked the control panel and opened up his prison.
I imagine because the Titans couldn’t be certain they’d never need to free them. Best not to build anything you can’t break open again.
Imagine if, for some inexplicable reason, an Old God was somehow able to drain Azeroth herself into it’s prison with it. They made them impossible to escape, but that doesn’t mean something else couldn’t get in. You’d really want to be able to open that lock, wouldn’t you?
As others have said, as well, it’s possible that they were just waiting until they could figure out a way to destroy the Old Gods. Which would probably require them to open the door to shoot them. Hitting someone with a bullet is a lot easier when there isn’t a door in the way.
Ooh I liek that quote, what’s the title?
Well there is also the fact the titans being as powerful as they are, the permanence of the lock could be based on the Old gods themselves. What I mean is if the Old gods had just laid back an allowed themselves to be imprisoned that prison might be permanent, yet the Old god I bet fought against their imprisoning as such making the lock imperfect. Also a prison is always easier to enter from one side, which makes it a weak point to exploit, and the Old god’s servants alongside with themselves most likely worked against the lock weakening it further.
I think this was the main reason.
They initially tried to purge/remove the old gods which is what happened with Y’Saarj but in doing so realised they were imbedded too deeply into Azeroth and that removing them would destroy the planet.
G’huun and the titan facility of Uldir was part of their attempt to better understand the old gods, they created G’huun as a means to discover a way to safely remove the old gods from Azeroth, however they were obviously unsuccessful.
It’s kind of weird though, because after all that happened the pantheon kinda seem to have just decided to sit back and do nothing.
The Titans built the prisons to be able to be opened when they figured out how to kill the Old Gods without hurting Azeroth.
When the first was killed it left a gaping wound in Azeroth. So they clearly couldn’t kill them without doing serious damage. So they imprisoned them intending to come back and deal with them after they figured out how to do so. This is why we meet G’huun, the Titans were experimenting with how to destroy them and accidentally created another.
Before they finished their research they had to leave to subdue Sargeras and the Old Gods remained imprisoned until we started mettling with things.
Which is explained with the Blood Trolls and G’huun, the Silithid and C’thun, the makers and Yogg’Saron, and Queen Azshara and N’zoth.
That whole Burning Crusade started so they had to go take care of that business.
Pesky demons getting in the way of everything lol.
It was from a rather long series of books. A total of 10 books. Yeah, not a short read.
Three separate trilogies.
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever
The Second Chronicles of Thomas Covenant (the quote came from that trilogy)
The Last Chronicles of Thomas Covenant
It’s an old series. At times it’ll make you uncomfortable and the main character can be unlikable at points. But overall, its a good read. I need to finish reading the third trilogy.
Stephen R Donaldson is the author.
The main character had been kidnapped by a wizard trying to create a “perfect” magic. But he had to put flaws into all his spells because the world was flawed. But the power the main character wielded was a contradiction. Wild Magic. Outside the normal rules. With such a contradiction, he could create “perfect” magics. That quote was from him explaining things to the main character. It didn’t work out for said wizard however.
Well the Pantheon were long dead by this point, wiped out by Sargeras.
But the Keepers weren’t fairing well either. Yogg hijacked Ulduar’s guardians, Odyn split off and was imprisoned, Ra went into seclusion, Tyr died, Archaedes and others went into hiding. As time went on their whole organization started to crumble apart.
So research into the Old Gods would have stopped with it, especially after Uldir’s failure.
My theory going forward is N’zoth has corrupted Azeroth. The first corrupted Titan will be birthed, but luckily Sargeras’ sword did some mortal damage so the process will require the aid of Void Lords to heal her.
For us this means we need to begin searching the twisting nether with the aid of the Consortium and Titan Watchers to find where the Pantheon has locked away Sargeras & Illidan.
We will need to reform the Burning Legion to aid us in freeing Sargeras if we have any hope of stopping the corrupted Titan Azeroth.
At least this is my hope. Broad stroked of course, lots of other things can and will need to happen in between.
Would be a cool bait-and-switch, Magni has been hearing Azeroth the entire time, but she herself has been corrupted by N’zoth.
She gets you to power up the heart as a means to free N’zoth in the hopes that as a symbiote he will repair her.
oh, well it’s simple. they left the locks on their prisons for when they’d be able to surgically remove the old gods without killing azeroth.
I’d rather we not bring back Illidan. They bungled his “redemption” in Legion and he came across as even more of a monster than we’d known him to be. And one psycho obsessed Naaru tried to excuse all his evil actions in the name of “destiny!”
Bringing him back a Second Time would feel cheap. And you think that Sargeras wouldn’t immediately turn around and try and kill every living thing? He’s far too obsessed with removing impurities to listen to reason. He’s a zealot and to him, He Cannot Be Wrong.
As the mortal on Azeroth were born to a corrupted world, we too are corrupt and Must Be Purged!
Yeah, him being set free would only end up going poorly for us.
What I think would be interesting as a hook into the next expansion would be something that lead to more of a far reaching journey type storyline. What I mean is we see N’zoth as well as the other old gods freed, maybe N’zoth absorbs them even becoming a super powered old god, and we are forced off world after a flood of Old god minions cascades over the world.
Now imagine going thru the universe searching for clues to how to fight the Old gods on other worlds that have them, while aiding some races we have seen in the past (the Ethereals for example) with their own issues.