Auto-loot.
That, and losing the boring torments (permanent % HP damage, boosted enemy HP) makes it much easier for pretty much everyone.
Getting flawless is just a matter of grabbing, killing, destroying everything and not taking an hour. There are even bonuses for killing several elites in one pull so there’s that too.
The only things I want them to change is have the torments reroll each time you enter Torghast for variety and taking out a couple of the torments that are punishing to melee. There’s enough mechanics for melee as is.
Its not really Mythic Towers so much as Horrific Visions weekly that grants you legendaries. Why Torghast receives so much hate for a run that you only do 2wice a week I will never know.
Yeah that aoe soul-burst mechanic can get nasty with a big group, any snares on you, even in prot
Make. your. Own. GROUP!
get your friends, stick in to LFG, and wait until its full or you’re sick of waiting, and go in.
I have 100% accept rate of joining my own groups.
Hey, I just ran it last night and said the same thing. Torghast is another Mythic+
I don’t run or like Mythics Keys…
I have pretty much solo’d or ran with my one guildy, in Torghast ever. Prefer that.
Level 3 Skoldus Hall (DH 192 overgeared) I was hugely docked for 2 deaths (same boss). Fast time cleared everything. This is worse than having a set number of deaths in my opinion, because you are knocked down for even one - big penalty.
3/5 Crystal score
Supposedly you can’t move on the next level unless you get 4 Crystals, just wanted to try the refurbished Torghast out. 4th Floor Boss one shot me so hard, even though I had him almost completely down. 2xs.
There is a new Buff “Box” panels- have to do more research on this? I got use to, and struggled through the challenges of Torghast and the Maw. I almost like them both.
But, repeat, I don’t like Mythics (Valor currency I won’t use, no choice for another) and now Torghast. Why is Bli$$ard shoving the “mythic structure” so hard. Feels like forcing everyone into a ‘mold’ if you don’t perform just how we think you should.
I’ll give it some time and keep working at it. Right now I kind of feel like give me back the Jailer’s Eye and “counted” deaths. Maybe I’ll change my mind.
One of the commenters here mentioned the obvious ‘hardwork and creativity’ of the devs … yes, seems quite intricate, detailed and lots of coding and reworking… I do appreciate that.
I will try to keep an open mind and see where this goes.
Honestly, I found it really stupid. I’ve done 4 runs so far, two 3’s and two 4’s, my last 4 I was about 4 minutes below par, 99% completion, had 45 points of bonus things, and still didn’t get 5…because I only got 12 points for “empowered bonus”… how is it deciding that? Rolling a dice??? I used the empowered and killed as much as I could with my 5-target capped aoe, usually getting 2-3 pulls into it before it expired, often a couple elites… but it still gives me nothing for score on it so I can’t get 5/5… like…wtf?
That sounds way more frustrating and eye opening that I realized. You don’t sound like you died and still didn’t get 5 crystals. I did level 3, basically 3 levels below my gear… can’t imagine how it’s going to be in the upper layers.
You don’t have to time it to get cinders. You can just run it until you whittle the boss down and kill it.
9.0: hated torghast
9.1 hate it even more
i am only doing it b/c i have to if i want to be a good raider other wise i wouldn’t do it at all.
We’ve killed EVERYTHING in sight - mawrats, enemies, stealthed rares, vases, clicked on the souls, did the side quests, etc. And still can’t get 4 gems.
There isn’t a timer.
Grouping in Torghast is a meme.
lmao.
Quite frankly, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
My partner and I have done both wings and two characters on layer 9 now. Even before the new Torghast, we always played “completion” style, making sure to kill all enemies, collect all things, destroy all vases, rescue all the souls, do the side objectives, etc. And yet we can’t get above 3 gems for some reason, and even when we complete every single objective we can find on a floor, it often says 98% completion or 96% completion. Hell, twice now in the Upper Reaches, we’ve cleared out what we thought was the whole floor (we ran everywhere we possibly could), but when we left it said 66% completion. Wtf is up with that???
No idea why are people complaining, getting 4 gems is stupidly easy even if you fail the timer completely. Just don’t die, kill and break everything, manage your Empowerment and look for some bonus objectives. Got 185 points by doing this.
They don’t want to learn the scoring system. That’s all it is.
This is completely unrelated but how do you max Tower Knowledge? Can you re-run it to cap your weekly?
yes, you can re-run for knowledge. even a failed run gives you some. i bailed on floor 2 of one run and got 20 or something.
Ah ok thanks - got worried because I ran a +9 and we just zerged it in 20 minutes but only got 68 TK for it.
Scoring a 4 is really easy though at proper gear levels? Even well below it I’m scoring 4s unless I do something stupid and repeatedly get myself killed.
Do a few of the hidden objectives and the timer is barely even a relevant contributor to your score.
Not sure your point when I was responding to the weird notion that people need to be geared or FotM to even clear Torghast in the first place. It just isn’t true.
ofcourse its not. but the community will always be excessive in the requirements for invites.
blizzard needs to take community behaviour into account before designing systems. it doesnt affect me at all. but the people it does affect is casuals