There are times when I wonder if Che works for Blizz because he’s always mentioning “solutions” that don’t apply to the specific situation. (i.e. giving stock answers)
I’ve thought this as well, but people are quitting anyway. They’d be better off making noises about fixing it (even if they end up never doing so). Kind of like the worgen/goblin models.
My guild is on Kul Tiras realm which is also connected to Bladefist realm via merger, alts on Bladefist cannot see guild chat or use guild ui, whereas my toons on Kul Tiras has no issues interacting with guild chat and the guild ui.
He also apparently believes everything is fine and dandy with the game, and at times tends to rant and rave like a lunatic.
All things considered:
Yep. He could definitely be a Acti-Blizzard plant.
Oh!
Huh whut?
Did you miss me? Jeez i just posted so your silly little thread wouldn’t die…
I have no guildies in our rather large guild (look up Weekenders) experiencing this issue anymore.
BTW, bugs don’t belong in this thread and if you actually want them addressed you would put them in the bug report forum, like I did.
A Blue actually responded to me. That’s right a Blue responded to me…not to any of you.
10/08/2018 02:38 PM Posted by Itzali
"I’m a part of WoW QA, we usually check the bug forums. Things listed in General are checked by community. Many of these may currently be researched but large threads are hard to manage. If you have a specific topic you’re passionate about I suggest breaking them up into separate threads.
I will forward this on to them for visibility."
Guild Leader community on Elune/Gilneas server has never mentioned this being an issue. Try harder, the game works if you know how to use it.
Thanks for the bump!
Pats your little head.
Thank you for proving what I’ve been saying since you started trolling this thread oh so long ago.
You’re simply (still) throwing a tantrum because no one here wanted to follow your leadership and “migrate” over to the “bug” thread you created.
The moment you realized that no one here wanted anything to do with the afore mentioned “bug thread” that you yourself admittedly created at the behest of the “blue post” you started attempting to derail this thread by poor attempts at discrediting every GM here, posting random nonsense, silly rants, misinformation, useless “solutions” (Like telling everyone here that the game really isn’t broken even though you sure thought so until everyone refused to abandon this thread in favor of your "bug thread) and of course telling us that you, as well as (apparently) every single other guild leader you seem to have spoken to personally on your uber-happy, unicorn and rainbow infected realm is blissfully fine with the new guild changes
Even though many of us here already explained multiple times why we refused to join you and migrate over to the bug thread you created, please let me do so once again since you seem to be having issues understanding.
THIS IS NOT A BUG.
This was almost certainly a deliberate act / change made intentionally by Blizzard for “reasons”
It was done secretly without any warning whatsoever to any Guild Leader (or anyone) anywhere. Ie: Blizzard stabbed us all in the back
It IS NOT A BUG.
Please. Listen to and try to understand what you have been told many many many times here: There are MANY MANY MANY types of guilds out there. Not all of them are managed in the same manner.
What you claim works for your guild (You have yet to explain how btw even though you’ve been asked on MANY MANY MANY occasions to do so) does not work for other guilds.
You also keep saying that you and no other guild leaders you know have an issue with the changes, yet you’ve continue to haunt this thread for months stating your not concerned about this issue. (I know I myself often say to myself, “Self. lets go to many threads that don’t concern us in the slightest, and bother those people there who are concerned.” Not! )
Oddly enough, you yourself admittedly created another thread where you DO express concern for this issue, and yes, I and many others here saw the blue respond to you many months ago. (Yay for you sir!)
However, we rejected the notion of migrating this thread to the “bug forums”
Why?
Once again Mr. Heals, this issue is NOT A BUG.
Oh, BTW. Here’s one of your several attempts to start a new thread regarding this topic. You know, the one where you state that this very mega thread was “infiltrated by trolls” (In all honesty Cheheals, you’re very nearly the only troll it’s had since it’s creation)
Link: to said “bug thread” badmouthing this thread: The New Guild Permissions
Here’s a link to your original attempt to get posters to “migrate” the thread over to the “bug forums” The one everyone who was posting here at that time refused to migrate to because “THIS ISSUE ISN’T A BUG”
Link: The New Guild UI, Permissions...yikes! - #16 by Druunah-ravencrest
You’re trying to recruit for your guild here on the wow forums.
That’s awesome.
Here’s part of your guild recruitment message. It deals with the type of guildie you’re looking to have in your guild:
Very nice. In all honesty commendable even. I sincerely wish there were more guilds aspiring to be like this out there. Wow would likely have a much less toxic environment than it currently does.
I’ve requested similar behavior for my guildies over the years.
As a Guild Leader since late Vanilla, I have learned that behaviors I expect of my guildies are something I need to be sure to practice myself.
Bad behavior from any guildie (especially the Guild Leader) can earn the guild a poor reputation. Of course that was most especially true back before realm merging and all that other nonsense that made players more anonymous, which in turn (In my opinion) made them more likely to act “badly.”
As you can see, the Wow forums aren’t so anonymous.
Here’s another line from your guild recruitment message:
Very good advice.
Simply put sir / ma’am: You should take it.
Most every poster here feels hurt by Blizzard in some way shape or form as a result of their guild permissions being removed from THEIR guilds without THEIR consent, or even a warning it was going to happen. Followed of course by Blizzard’s continued silence ever since.
If your guild is doing well, bravo and congratulations to you.
On the opposite side of the coin, many of our guilds are not doing well and we want our control over them restored to us.
My apologies. I tend to ramble a bit especially before I’ve had my coffee.
Lets sum things up.
You say the new permissions work for your guild. (You wont say how)
Fine
You say no other guild leader on your realm feels effected by said changes to their guilds. (You have nothing to back up that statement beyond your own word as proof)
Fine.
Please try to understand the following:
You’re not in charge of any guild but your own. If yours is working, great. Our’s aren’t.
Why? Simple as goretusk pie. We don’t manage our guilds like you manage yours.
Nice try.
The facts:
This very forum is FULL of threads that would beg to differ.
Facebook is FULL of Wow groups that beg to differ.
Reddit is FULL of posters / topics / threads that beg to differ.
Youtube is FULL of videos, comments and posters that beg to differ.
You can keep saying that the game isn’t broken till the murlocs come home, that doesn’t change the reality that not only are guild permissions “broken” the game in it’s entirety is a steaming mess since BfA went live.
About that.
Your “bug thread” ends on November 18th. The last three posts were made by you yourself. No Blue responded, and no one posts there even though the thread is not locked. (Please see above link)
At least this thread had a VIP respond several times, although that seems to have gotten nowhere,
You then started another thread in the bug forums also on Nov 18th. It got three posts in total.
Two are yours. (Please see above link)
It would seem that your threads are the ones in need of your attention.
This one is doing just fine.
Thanks anyway.
THIS IS JEOPARDY
Me: I will take “WoW Ownership” for $500, Alex.
Alex: This person got roasted like a turkey in GC topic about guild permissions by the one and only Druunah
Me: Who is Cheheals?
Alex: Correct! Go again.
Ohh, and fix that dadgum Guild Permissions and UI! Or at least acknowledge that you didn’t keep your word about open/more communication or that you are working on the fix…preferably back to the way it was before.
Che is the herpes virus of the forums, showing up when least expected and never appreciated.
I believe this is the 4th Q&A. Trying again.
Gave it my vote.
I hope this one is our Ben Kenobi.
Asked about fixing guilds in the Q&A thread, as well as upvoted the better worded one that references this thread… looking forward to being ignored by Blizzard for another Q&A.
Did the exact same thing.
I told Blizz ignoring us is not a solution.
Now waiting on being ignored even harder.
/sigh
I did the same as well.
Just giving this the ol’ bump a doo, would eventually like an answer to any of the many eloquently worded posts in this thread.
Hrmph…they stealth-fixed the chat timestamps.
Now…lets see if they can get to the real issue…
As I continue my read through and highlighting of past posts, here is another post from back in August that could have been made today:
Yeah, the irony in the last paragraph is rather thick. I wonder how long this is going to keep going without an answer? Do we really have any hope for the upcoming Q&A?
I’m guessing most of us want to know if there’s even a fix in mind. If so, is there any estimate on how much longer we have to wait? If not, can we get an explanation as to why the devs think the current all-in-one permissions will work for all guilds? Especially those guilds with members who haven’t necessarily gone through a hugely difficult vetting process with on-line applications and other requirements? You know, like nearly all the casual/leveling/social guilds that make up the majority of WoW guilds (as opposed to the truly top-end elite raiding guilds)?
Bumpy…up voted Q&A thread as well…we shall see.
I noticed I still lack the old Guild controls.
Wonder why…