<THE MARSHAL PLAN> [A] - Incendius

Not sure what happened… I was making friends on the discord trying to plan for launch. Leader Veskr seemed reserved and appeared to have put in a lot of effort regarding building the guild up. He found me from my post on the classicraids website that I posted many weeks ago. The only warning signs during my time with this guild was that the server choice appeared to be more of a make or brake decision for some members than it really needed to be. It appeared as if some of the members had played with Veskr before, maybe on retail or pserver. Someone even reserved his name for him when the name reserve went live. The only information I could find on why people got kicked from the discord was that there may have been disagreements over how loot council was handled. At first I was thinking that that the guild could not have self destructed simply because of the leader himself and maybe people were leaving the discord because of some sort of insider guild sabotage or quarrel. Anyone who posted questions in chat asking about things appeared to have their posts deleted quite quickly… Eventually I posted a simple unbiased question and was kicked within 1 minute of doing so. I PMed him on discord, but have yet to get a response. Better to have this happen now, than weeks into Launch in my opinion.

Keep seeing this over and over, does this means OP deleted the comment or Blizz did?

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That’s a a message when you delete your own comment.

Thank you for helping me understand!

Have a great day @Maxwall

Looks like the guild was disbanded since he is now in “Zero Deaths”. shouldn’t it be “One Death” since a guild has already fallen to his leadership?

basically anyone who asked questions about how the guild was going to be managed was labeled a troll. He is telling people that all the 40 or so people he booted or left were the same 2 people who created multiple accounts just to “troll” him.

This man is paranoid and delusional. I actually feel sorry for the guy.

sound crappy. We are on the same server however we are Horde. I am an old school vanilla player , from beta actually. Guys i am with are very cool and for the most part are all veteran vanilla players. Come check us out and the second positive…you get to gank this Veskr fool over and over. I know I plan to!

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pals-for-life-h-whitemane-semi-hardcore-raiding-friday-saturday-nights/247464/43

I got clarification on this matter to anyone that wants to know. TMP got “blacklisted” by HC players, because Veskr chose not to join a PvP Ranking Coalition. This create a debacle where the most HC players inside TMP didn’t want to risk association. It’s quite possible the guild leadership was afterwards targeted with trolling, but regardless of the extent of that, in the end the guild leadership silently decided to wipe the slate clean of all newer classic members.

I’m fairly certain the appropriate response from the guild leadership, should have been to make it transparent that TMP was being targeted.

Bump for TMP!

sounds like a lot of drama. Play Horde instead and progress with true vanilla players and kill these drama filled alliance

There was no trolling.

Afternoon bump for TMP!

picked up some solid recruits from the dumpster fire that happened here. Any Fury warriors wanna play with a fun vanilla veteran filled guild with no drama.

check us out!

Good evening bump!

Wow, the guild leader went mental and kicked the majority of the guild from Discord. That is insane!

Another bump for TMP!

Late night TMP bump!!!

Good Morning bump for TMP!

Another bump for TMP!

Afternoon bump!