The loot table in dungeons is atrocious

Let’s be honest here.

Who recalls doing 2 or 3 dungeons in a row and getting 1 piece of gear or a cosmetic for your dragonriding?

Now. If you are a lucky person and always pulls atleast 1 or 2 pieces of gear per dungeon, this post is not for you.

I am a tank. I think it’s only fair to assume: Tank gets gear, tank can tank. Problem is, even for dps and healer, if you get no pieces every 2-3 dungs you do, you will ask yourselves; What’s the point? Gold? no.

I’ve been feeling like, since the pre-expac patch, the loot tables are broken and/or inconsistent. before the expac, when you were spamming dungeons, you would get 1 piece of your class gear every 30-40 levels. The loot table felt upside-down. Now, you BARELY get 1 piece of your gear every 2-3 dungeons.

It wouldn’t be so much of a problem if the risk>Reward wasn’t… disappointting.

As we know, the expac just launched. It makes sense if the devs wants to time gate the players and make it so we don’t get done with the content too quickly right?

FALSE.

If there is a lack of content at launch, there is a problem. So far, after doing every world quests and zone events, I find myself feeling like in WoD all over again. Spamming dungeons, barely getting any pieces of gear and struggling, having nothing to do but spamming dungs/bgs. Rep farm being timegated (Not our first rodeo, huh?) and so on.

So far, I have felt like doing bgs were more fun than the majority of whats to do in the expac (Like there is that much anyways.)

I like the expac all the way until i’ve reached lvl 70 and got to clear everything. Now, it just feels… empty. It’s a problem.

I do blacksmithing… so if anyone has the same proff, you can guess how it sucks to be timegated by renown AND having to grind said renown that is (of course) timegated and not having recipees to craft the good sh!t.

Everything, and i mean it, EVERYTHING (except dragonriding of course) feels timegated and makes me forcefully stuck. I thought i was playing World of Warcraft… Not Warframe.

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I don’t believe the cosmetics share with the actual gear. I’ve gotten both from several kills.

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Can’t have an echo chamber if you include all the data points can ya lol

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As a tank, I like the dungeons

Please ignore how much m0 gear I have

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hence why i said Lucky cause only a minority will be that lucky in my opinion. I could be wrong but the last parties i have done the dung with, barely anyone gets loot. Good for you if it’s not the case.

Pulling 1 or 2 pieces isn’t lucky.

Maybe you’re just unlucky? change your PoV.

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Que?

:thinking:

Does anyone know what OP is talking about? Seems like nonsense to me. I’ve got this bear and my PWar and I haven’t observed anything abnormal with M0 week compared to in SL.

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I would believe that if i wasn’t influenced by the fact more than just me and my group of friends/familly playing the game was not getting gear. so you’re gonna tell me everyone i’ve had in my groups and entourage we’re just unlucky? I’ve considered it but it doesn’t make sense.

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My buddy ran 5 M0s and got 7 pieces of loot including a weapon. You win some you lose some.

Lol.

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Those are similar drop rates since WoD when they introduced personal loot. Nothing really new there.

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There’s a massive difference between loot entirely not dropping and you not getting any.

M0s rewards can only be claimed once per week, so if you are running with people who already cleared and its “their loot drop” there is no item drop for that boss for anyone because the invisible loot went to the person who already did it.

If its heroics I don’t really see an issue because its spammable.

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I agree with Heroics. Now my question is, we’re M0 not spammeable before? I don’t recall there being a weekly gate for M0s… unless i’m mixing M+ and M0s loot system.

You are mixing both systems M+ with KEYS will always reward loot there is no lock out.

However M0s have a weekly loot lock out.

Which is why alot of people are rushing their m0s and just getting ilvl from WQ and other treasure chest events.

We are locked out for the week.

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OoF. Another time-gated content. I get it, the xpac just launched and blizzard doesn’t want us to go through it in a day… But, idk, it felt like legion, bfa and even shadowlands (not season 1, i recalls how painful it was) wasnt so… lackluster and timegated. This REALLY feels like WoD for me all over again. Oh. And don’t forget now the majority of epic BGs are ashran bgs. so its even worse when you feel like youre playing one of the most lackluster expac all over again xD a field trip down memory lane.

its not another “time gated event”

M0 was never spammable for loot.

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I will most likely be wrong with this hottake: but i feel like M0s should be like Heroics. Spammeable. Lower the ilvl a little bit but still higher than mythic and make it not weekly capped. it doesnt make sense for me that M+s are spammeable but not the M0s? Like, what?

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The dungeons drop gear.

If all you care about is yourself, and whether it drops gear YOU can use, then that’s a you problem.

Dungeons still run on personal loot so you can cook the books on what drops (which is why personal loot was removed for other parts of the game, this expansion). Make an all-plate group with friends and have them trade you their gear, if you’re that upset.

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Have been since introduced in WoD.

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…but it’s never been like this, this isn’t a hot take, you said you played back in legion? where was your hot take about this topic then?

It’s very difficult to have a discussion with someone who mention their time played, and then completely forget how the game’s systems worked for the last 7 years.

also has nothing to do with the dungeons loot table. lol.

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Because M+ opens up at the same time as raid. M0s are available at the very beginning as an early source of pre-season gear.

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