Yeah, they much prefer torturing them, driving them insane, and giving them a cheap villain/redemption arc.
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It’s boring is what it is. And predictable.
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…Legion?
The Horde was completely M.I.A. in Legion. What the bloody hell are you even talking about?
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I don’t mind hugging the male Blood Elves 
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Don’t forget the writing team literally cancelled the story elements that were supposed the bring the Taunka back during Legion.
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Canceling Tauren content is basically like 95% of the reason Blizz gets out of bed in the morning.
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Either that or making the Tauren the “voice of reason/opposition” when they try to please the 1/2 of the player base that wants the WCII Horde
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I think Blizzard doesn’t know what to do with the Horde anymore.
They should never have replaced Thrall as Warchief.
But nope, they wanted to have more war in Warcraft so they kick Thrall to the side as he was too reasonable and put Garrosh in his place. Many players didn’t like him, and I think the new lead writer wanted him to vacate the Warchief position so his waifu can occupy it. So Garrosh was killed.
Vol’jin occupied the seat temporarily - very temporarily. Personally I didn’t like it as while he was supposed to be the head of the rebellion, throughout the whole darn thing all he did was laid in bed. He didn’t earn his position nor demonstrate (to the players) he had what it took.
Then we have Sylvanas … despite multiple expansions of Blizzard trying to force her down our throats, she didn’t take. By the SL many players absolutely hated her.
So now they chicken out and not have a leader for the Horde. Frankly, I think no matter who they picked, there will be unhappy players.
Thrall and his vision of a new Horde was really the only thing holding the Horde together. Once they removed him, that disappeared. So now the Horde is leaderless and directionless and, not to put too fine a point on it, should not even exist as they have no unifying credo - it now just separate races doing their own thing.
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I mean this would be the ideal right? I’ll admit I find some satisfaction in seeing Horde players making all the same complaints Alliance made for years and years but Blizz hasn’t brought guests out on stage at Blizzcon to call you all homophobic slurs yet, so it isn’t all that bad for Horde players.
You’ll survive one patch focused on Alliance characters. Particularly now that it is over already. lol
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Dude, it’s the Alliance on the GD being the Alliance on the GD.
They think the expacs where Blizzard villain bats our warchief and we have to kill and invade our own people and city is some how a fist-pumping Horde moment.
Oh and WoD was a “Horde expac” because it had orcs. Never mind the fact that the Iron Horde was from an alternate dimension and their doppelgangers were dead before the World of Warcraft Horde was founded… Plus there’s the fact that the majority of the Horde isn’t even made up of orcs anymore but you know… all this is facts and the Alliance GD doesn’t like facts when it comes to these discussions.
But as for Legion specifically, it had like three cinematics with Sylvanas and that’s why it’s a “Horde xpac” 
Especially Lor’themar.
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Blizz feeds into this as well by trying to play both sides. They want to write the Horde as edgelord fodder where they do dramatic things like burn down world trees full of women, children, and puppies. Then turn around and say “oh you can’t blame us for that, we are just noble savages we aren’t evil”.
Blizz should have just picked a side, Horde are the evil fantasy monsters or Horde are the side of the “noble savages” and stuck with it. This constant back and forth since Cata is what has really ruined the Horde and the story for so long.
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I have a few concerns. If we’re going to rely on simplicity, it wouldn’t be the Horde that made WoW unique. My take would be the vast number of wars and battles we’ve had throughout our journeys as whatever toon.
And often times it wasn’t about the Faction Wars. It was the battles with the Old Gods, Titans, Wild Gods… basically ANY deity on the cosmic map. The biggest war we remember by far is the Scourge War because of Arthas. Or any Lich King before that.
If you ask me… the Faction War was already dwindling because the Alliance and Horde tag teamed up to create the Champions of Kalimdor. Or whatever it was called. They did it again… and again… and again… to a point where the only way to bask in the nostalgia of the Faction Wars is by… and I’m probably opening a can of worms…
WoW PvP. And we all know how many people just love that crap.
Sigh. If Blizzard were to kill off any faction leaders for the Alliance… something tells me Mekkatorque is on the radar.
Unfortunately, Mekkatorque doesn’t have quite the story. He’s just there in many eyes of the players, nothing more.
People loved the difference when Goblins got their patch. When can Gnomes make a return?
“NEVER SHUT UP LOL”
Vol’jin would have been a good Warchief longer term.
Cairne would have been a better one.
But Blizz decided it was more fun to kill them off.
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If they really wanted to diss the Horde and make for angry Horde players, they’d make a Vulpera or Goblin the Warchief.
Yeah he would have.
Peaceful, wise, strong as hell but push him too far and he wouldn’t take anyone’s crap.
Nothing like his limp noodle son.
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He did plenty wrong…still love him, his story and progression since first finding him in Nagrand in The Burning Crusade.
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Other games have a vat number of wars and battles
Any other game have battles versus cthlu mythos gods and god-ish characters like titans.
This int rly the fction war dwindling, this is just the base of warcraft, kill each other until someone stronger can kill you, so you stop, deal with the problem and go back yo business.
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That would make for absolutely boring storytelling. I’m very certain there were a few alliances between the Alliance and Horde even before the attack of C’Thun.
They didn’t get across the veil. They made that perfectly clear. Souls wander around on the Azeroth side until the Kyrian come and take them to Shadowlands. This type of thing is very common in Fantasy stories.
Look at the Hobbit where Smegal had his “precious”. In the Lord of the Rings we learn it is the “One ring to rule them all”. Then they fight a major war against the great evil lord only to find in the Silmarillion that Gandalf and Sauron are only minor gods and that there is a far more powerful army in the West.
Fantasy stories do this sort of thing all the time.
Problem here is that I never said any such thing. This is typical of the revisionism in this debate that I get all the time. It was one of my favorite expansions but I never said it was the greatest WoW story ever made.
But when your argument is weak, as yours is, you have to punch it up with emojis and false claims. It’s all you’ve got.
My thing is…I loved him as Warchief…a complete and utter reverse of Thrall, whom I loved as Warchief in Warcraft 3 and beginnings of WoW.
I loved what he became and the breaking of balance of The Horde, made the rest of the Horde stronger in retaliation to his unquenchable quest.
His downfall and being laid out in Siege of Orgrimmar, loved it. I still loved everything of his getting to Draenor and Grommash Hellscream and the Warlords.
Us having Vol’jin as Warchief was a dream come true…I was on cloud bloody nine…
…and then before we so much as blinked Vol’jin was killed off and thus started the downward spiral of “Let’s do an even bigger, longer, more “epic” Garrosh 2.0!” and all the damn air got sucked out for me. Like I was fine for awhile, Legion and most of BFA…but the end of it and ALL of Shadowlands and I’m just emotionally sterile of WoW story, characters and lore with new stuff atm.
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