The Kyrian Represent the Far off Future of Humans

Actually, they haven’t figured it all out. What they did was bandaged it with memory wipes. As a result, they don’t learn and they don’t grow with their immortality. They are essentially biological machines honed to do a job. Of course this may be preferable to becoming Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged.

That’s assuming immortality is a static affair. With some religious views, the human soul is immortal but goes through a series of changes, kind of like moving from one cocoon (universe or reality) into a larger one with an ultimate (?) form somewhere down the road that would ultimately be consciously immortal, without needing tweaking to be comfortable with it.

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I love Alpha Centari. I may need to load it up again tonight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdCB9yE9Hcc
vs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBVCi0PmW24

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I don’t think this is a Kyrian exclusive thing at all. Every covenant revolves around eternity.

Why do you think one of the main motifs of Oribos is revolving around the Orobouros and the symbol for Infinity?

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Very far away and will probably be only for the rich.

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Everytime I start to think to much about the Kyrians all I can recall is all the talk linking smurfs to racism… (both in the cartoon and the original Belgian comic strip)… which starts to get really freaky when you look at it because… right below the surface, it’s all extremely there…

The Kirians actually kinda look and act the part with their ‘better than you’ purity routine. And that just keeps tossing that analogy back into my head anytime I do more with them than ‘click on the exclamation mark and turn in the stuff’.

So… I always just try to ignore thinking about those guys too much and chock this one down to uncanny coincidence.

But I do wish they hadn’t make them blue guys in white outfits… Because once I saw it, I couldn’t stop seeing it…

Kirian is always best as a set of guys to ‘quietly move on and step over here away from looking too closely at’…

Also… the Kiran way to dealing with immortality is horrendous.

This notion of forgetting you who are, removing your identity.

At that point you’re just an immortal bag of mobile meat. You’ve purged yourself… of yourself…

When you look at the various covenants, I’d argue the Venthyr are actually the most noble. Reckon with yourself, find redemption, rise up: ignoring your past doesn’t make it go away, it just shoves the problems onto others - so the Venthyr do it right.

I would argue that the Kiran model is actually almost a definition for evil. Refusal to accept, acknowledge, and deal with your past. Just shoving it away - leaving those impacted by it to suffer.

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I dont think I need to explain why this is a Bad Idea, yeah?

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Eternal torturers the most noble…yea I am gonna go with a nope here.

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Face and reckon with yourself - confront your past, vs deny yourself and act like nothing you have ever done matters.

I stand by my statement.

Those who live in denial of their deeds perpetuate them and continue suffering of others.

Kirian, in their philosophy of denialism; are the definition of evil.

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Holy crap, you telling me I’m going to Divine Toll people irl?

guarantee only the 1% would have access to that. terrifying thought.

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Can I just have my 16 year old metabolism back?

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For realz tho.

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I think eventually humans will evolve into some kind of intelligent biological slurry, near immortal, stored in some sort of mechanical device like the Daleks. EXTERMINATE!

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I don’t think the human brain was designed for a lifespan exceeding what is already natural. My guess is any immortals in RL would develop an alarming plethora of new mental illnesses.

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It would be nice, but would require stringent rules such as:

  • You must not have any kids and must be sterilized with no ability to reverse sterilization
  • You have to be a functional / productive member of society the entire time and not rely on others to pay for your necessities
  • You must agree to be euthanized if you become permanently injured / disabled to the point that you can not be a productive member of society (temporary injuries are fine)
  • You have to obey all laws. Any serious crimes that would lead to you being a burden to the state (incarcerated) for more than a couple years results in death.

Most people want to have children, so they would be disqualified in order avoid overpopulation. Chances are good that most of the rest will become permanently injured / disabled somehow in the centuries they are alive, so they will need to be removed - you can’t have immortal dependants.

Of course, there would be people who don’t follow the rules who would screw it up for everyone.

Seems like a reasonable trade off, and immortals can always raise orphans if they really want.

CEO immortal caste here we come.

No blue collar immortals, gotcha.

Oh yeah, I can see the corruption of the immortal caste of CEOs already. Found guilty of murder? Get off with the bare minimum amount of jail time before having to be put down.

Those rules set themselves up for failure.

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lol no. have you heard of capitalism?

That’s kinda the challenge right? We are going to have to learn how to cope with eternity and how eventually how to overcome it.

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