The Imbalance has reached a boiling point

10/26/2018 08:50 PMPosted by Yarrow
Merging servers doesn't balance anything since more Horde are in war mode than are Alliance across all servers.


You know they balance warmode servers, right? That's why there are shards
Maybe a shift is coming.

I’ve had sub 3 minute queues two days in a row.
10/26/2018 09:10 PMPosted by Jugajr
10/26/2018 08:50 PMPosted by Yarrow
Merging servers doesn't balance anything since more Horde are in war mode than are Alliance across all servers.

You know they balance warmode servers, right? That's why there are shards

Actually I know they don't. If there are ten times more Horde than Alliance in war mode, you can't balance it by breaking them up into shards. You just get a bunch of unbalanced shards.
10/26/2018 09:13 PMPosted by Yarrow
10/26/2018 09:10 PMPosted by Jugajr
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You know they balance warmode servers, right? That's why there are shards

Actually I know they don't. If there are ten times more Horde than Alliance in war mode, you can't balance it by breaking them up into shards. You just get a bunch of unbalanced shards.


You don't know how many turn warmode on and off at any given time
10/26/2018 08:57 PMPosted by Yarrow
Not for long, as people who care about queue times switch for the shorter queues.


Are we just going to pretend like faction imbalance didn't exist pre mercenary option?
10/26/2018 08:57 PMPosted by Yarrow
Not for long, as people who care about queue times switch for the shorter queues.
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Are we just going to pretend like faction imbalance didn't exist pre mercenary option?

Faction imbalance was much less severe before the mercenary option than it is now. There are other problems as well, but merc mode certainly contributes.
10/26/2018 09:15 PMPosted by Jugajr
10/26/2018 09:13 PMPosted by Yarrow
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Actually I know they don't. If there are ten times more Horde than Alliance in war mode, you can't balance it by breaking them up into shards. You just get a bunch of unbalanced shards.

You don't know how many turn warmode on and off at any given time

I don't know the exact numbers, but I do know approximate numbers.
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Are we just going to pretend like faction imbalance didn't exist pre mercenary option?

Faction imbalance was much less severe before the mercenary option than it is now. There are other problems as well, but merc mode certainly contributes.
Surely you didn’t play wod then.
10/26/2018 09:28 PMPosted by Yarrow
10/26/2018 09:15 PMPosted by Jugajr
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You don't know how many turn warmode on and off at any given time

I don't know the exact numbers, but I do know approximate numbers.
You don’t know any numbers.
10/26/2018 09:54 PMPosted by Jugajr
10/26/2018 09:28 PMPosted by Yarrow
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I don't know the exact numbers, but I do know approximate numbers.
You don’t know any numbers.

Correction: you don't know any numbers, because you haven't bothered to investigate. I have, so I do.
10/26/2018 09:56 PMPosted by Yarrow
because you haven't bothered to investigate.


How do you investigate who turns warmode off and on and when?
10/26/2018 05:31 AMPosted by Bathos


I think the bottom line is, most people simply don't like alliance as a faction, and Blizzard can't change what people like


I've rolled a few alliance over the years but could never get with the quest/story lines. Never felt "good"

Only way blizz could get more alliance is have a superubercool new race that all the cool kids would want (or give op racial boosts).

Also is it just a PVP imbalance or the whole game? Can't see why the PVE side of things would be wanting to switch unless it was a lot of people didn't like the lore/storyline, it's not like the pve rewards have much to do with Horde vs Alliance, Both side get identical rewards for clearing the dungeons/raids....

Are there hard numbers out there for the factions? And are they reliable? Always see people bringing up numbers but then the other side or the arguement always says that "THOSE" numbers aren't correct but "THEIRS" are. Mostly seems like a big he said she said scenario.
10/26/2018 05:59 AMPosted by Vanazar
The disparity has nothing to do with racials and everything to do with the quality of the players. Not much Blizzard can do about that except somehow entice better players to move back to alliance.

Increased honor gain isn't going to cut it (the only people who actually care about honor and prestige levels are roleplayers) and if horde wants faster queues they can just merc. There is no incentive for a good player on horde to move to alliance. However, there is incentive for good players on alliance to move to horde (better chance of winning).


Not really i like leveling my honor level and im not a rper .
10/26/2018 09:58 PMPosted by Jugajr
10/26/2018 09:56 PMPosted by Yarrow
because you haven't bothered to investigate.


How do you investigate who turns warmode off and on and when?


LOL
just re-roll horde. more rated games, merc mode. win-win. trust me, there are so many better pvpers on horde vs alliance you won't go back. you can merc for nostalgia
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Are we just going to pretend like faction imbalance didn't exist pre mercenary option?

Faction imbalance was much less severe before the mercenary option than it is now. There are other problems as well, but merc mode certainly contributes.


This is based on what data?
10/26/2018 03:44 PMPosted by Jugajr
...Uh yea that’s exactly what I meant. Servers are merged depending on normal or RP. As for numbers they balance them since servers are merged.

Merging servers doesn't balance anything since more Horde are in war mode than are Alliance across all servers.

Edit: this is apropos of the discussion about getting ganked while leveling, and not about battlegrounds. Alliance who level on Normal servers get ganked a lot more than Alliance who level on RP servers.


This is false i leveld my dk and warr the part warmode and i was never ganked once .

I get into more wpvp on my lvl 120s then my lowbies
You can't fix faction imbalance when Alliance already has better racials.

If you remove racials and create an even playing field to the T of racials then there's no incentive for people to waste money for faction changing apart from aesthetics.

The People will do what they want.
10/26/2018 10:16 AMPosted by Jugajr
10/26/2018 10:15 AMPosted by Oozo
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You must be mistaken. Jugaa didn't get attacked so you must not have been attacked either. Also, Jugaa wins half of their BGs so everybody else must be winning half of their BGs as well.

Jugaa-logic can't be denied or defeated.


Or it's just greatly exaggerated how bad the faction imbalance is, just like in Legion


How can you sit there and write that after the undeniable proof given to you with realmpop, the pvp ladders, wargraphs, ect? Every single site that deals with which faction is dominating anything is showing the horde dominating. Population of 120 characters, bgs stats, mythic progression, ect.

The bg win rate for Alliance is creeping lower and lower, Alliance raiding guilds are almost nonexistent, warmode is such a joke it is commonly referred to as
hordemode. And yet you still sit here pretending that things are being 'exaggerated'.

I am beyond being able to believe you actually believe what you say.
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Not at all. I was Horde that expansion, and it was mercing that turned that poopshow around.


What was the cause of the disparity in WoD? Merc mode fixed everything, huh?


She failed to mention the nerfs/buffs to racials that helped with fixing it lol.