Alliance rescues Horde leaders from the Maw. You’re welcome, we got y’all.
We’ve got Alliance to Horde programs set up to help y’all through your hardships.
Now with the Burning Crusade over? You are about 13 years too late there.
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A Forsaken Resistance, sabotaging the Horde as much as possible, until the traitor Baine is turned into hamburger helper. Then the rest of the Horde’s leaders get taught a lesson in loyalty and intestinal fortitude.
The Dark Lady will free us all.
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Technically the Burning Crusade didn’t end until we jailed Sargeras.
Remember the Titans said “yourrrr cruuusaaaade… issssss… Oooooooverrrr!”
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Elves introduced to the Horde ruined its identity.
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Some Horde players just want The Horde to be a Scourge.
Other Horde players want The Horde to be like Warcraft 3s.
Other Horde players want The Horde to be like Garroshs again.
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I want the Horde to be a threat, a force to be reckoned with, not a PUG faction for “save Azeroth” stories
True, true. 
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That was your first mistake.
The horde died once 50% of its playerbase became cringe elves, so much for the big bad monster underdog faction.
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So you wish to eventually be a Raid Boss? hehe
How the tables have turned.
The Alliance now has a Warchief High King and the Horde now has a Council.
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Free Arthas from the maw. Give him a shiny new helmet with a Red jewel this time. BAM new Horde warchief.
bubble hearths out
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Just… go back to Thrall’s vision of the Horde. We basically sacrificed half the franchise (WC1 & 2) to try and make the Horde anything other than Always Chaotic Evil and yet we continually slip backwards into that mold.
“Oh, we want a complex, full-bodied, gray morality! … but also it would be nice if the ugly, lumpy, toothy troglodytes could all just be villains again.”
*Gag*
So… Thrall’s Horde, but even moreso. No more clinging to old power structures that continually fail. No more venerating monsters and evil because… gotta venerate something, I guess?
Start venerating things beyond just “victory or death”. How about honor or death? The Tauren are big on wisdom - everyone likes wisdom. No? Too hippie for you? Okay, how about pride? The Sin’dorei run off pride. Ingenuity? Goblins run off that.
Perseverance? That’s pretty much everyone, from the Darkspear who never die, the Sin’dorei who dug themselves out of the ashes of a zombie apocalypse, the Orcs who “oops, all explosions”-ed their whole world to death, the Tauren who survived near genocide at the hands of the Centaur…
“Lo’tar Ogar!” has done nothing but excuse war crimes and bring the Horde to the brink of oblivion time and time again. Time to get a new motto.
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Thrall’s vision didn’t include demon-eating Hot Topic elves.
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Maybe tell your “PrIEstEsT oF ThE mOOn” to calm down and convince her that Sylvanas crimes weren’t the Hordes crimes!
Or worry about your smelly, meat eating, annoying random barks for no reason, and howling at the moon for no reason, wolf self. Dog.
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Trolls, Tauren, and pandas from their own offshoot.
Orcs, foxes, goblins, undead stay together.
All elves reunite to their own team
Humans, KT, worgen together
Spacegoats, pandas, dwarves team up.
Gnomes punted
You weren’t paying attention if you thought the Horde in WoW were evil.
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Actually, Id be honored if my character became a raid boss one day.
I could drop one mark of the illidari and plenty of salt.
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First; of course, it’s always a Blood Elf that comes out swinging with the rabid Sylvanas loyalty. I see more of that from the Elves than the Forsaken. It’s hilarious.
Second, the Horde was billed from the beginning as a group of races that banded together because they had nowhere else to go. The Trolls and the Tauren, specifically, had a blood oath with Thrall and the Orcs because they helped them in their most desperate time of need. Sylvanas led the Forsaken to join the Horde because they knew they wouldn’t be remotely accepted anywhere else after the mess that was the Third War.
Yet our identity for some reason hinged on there being one Warchief - one person to lead such a massive group of people with different ideals.
I like the idea of there not being one leader to look to but a council of leaders representing our races - which is already what seems to be happening.
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