The Horde is the Best, Actually

*crash landed in unknown territory

*tried to gather supplies essential to survival

*Didn’t drink the demon blood again until after being attacked by Cenarius and the Night Elves

:pancakes:

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They landed in a completely different territory.

They were still tainted.

That’s why Cenarius attacked them personally. While the humans just got your regular raiding party.

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Really, then how come the Night Elves were also there?

You just tried to justify a genocide against innocents and children and the torture and complete obliteration of their souls lol

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Right. Then they

:pancakes:

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Fair enough. But you’ve to admit, it’s become rather generic recently. I highlight the Worgen a lot because I really believed they’d be the vessel through which I could finally enjoy the Alliance.

And any edge to them that even sort of veers away from the standard fantasy hero trope, like you see in Silverpine, has been sanded off.

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Well … Let’s just say. The orcs smelled of Fel. I think the closest analogue will be the swastika.
A person will not be killed for a swastika, they will be convicted and sent to prison. But if you move for two or five hundred years, then there will be an execution or lynching.

The night elves only got there long after the warsong were able to set up an entire outpost and get established, dingus. They had zero idea anyone was there. If the Night elves would have been even remotely diplomatic or even just been verbally hostile while telling the Warsong to GTFO, they’d have been in the right if the Warsong hadn’t left.

Can we go one thread without someone saying that the Horde/Horde players are National socialists, please?

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Uh huh. And that taint caused them to do what?

Help rescue Tauren from the centaur?
Go out and gather supplies essential to survival?

Yeah, that taint made the orcs so bad …

:pancakes:

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I thought you were against the Horde being villainous.

Turns out that isn’t true is it?

Let them collect on the territory where they landed. Instead of scouring the continent for resource-rich places.

1 zone over.

:pancakes:

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You want the NEs to have meta knowledge?

Demon tainted armies are destroying the forest and making their way north towards Hyjal.
This is probably what they had been training for 10’000 years.

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Now, I only meant the Fel and its connection with the Burning Legion.
Perhaps it was worth describing the analogy in more detail. Orcs are not fascists, but they wear their insignia, clothing, and other external attributes.

The orcs were so tainted that they dropped everything to defend the night elves from the Burning Legion in Hyjal, despite everything that had gone on prior.

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Only after the story of Medivh, who had previously appeared to Thrall in a dream.

Before Medivh, everyone was ready to gnaw each other’s throats.

Kyalin you get a lot of ish here but I at least really do appreciate the thoughtful feedback. Even when I completely disagree I’ve to at least admit you’re engaging earnestly and thoughtfully with people, and that’s a rare quality on the internet.

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Looking at this thread I have to say there is not a lot of that going on good of you to spot it though I wish you could live up to it.

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It’s hard for me to experience ‘Horde Pride’ these days mainly because the Horde has essentially been fighting itself every expansion since after Wrath.

In Cataclysm there was a bunch of in-fighting as Garrosh consolidated his rule. In MoP the Horde head to raid their own city alongside the Alliance to get rid of him. In WoD we literally fought and killed a bunch of heroes of the Horde all over again. Legion had a zone devoted to cloak and dagger stuff setting up Sylvanas as the next Garrosh (even if at the time the devs swore that wasn’t what was happening). Do I even need to mention how the Horde was at each other’s throats in BFA?

For so long the writers have made it clear to the Horde player that the Horde’s greatest enemy is the Horde. A house divided against itself cannot stand. How can you have any pride in an institution that murders your factions heroes and forces you to work with the enemy faction to do it?

The Horde isn’t tainted by ‘Fel’ or it’s history of war, it’s tainted by endless storylines about idiotic infighting and a stupid desire imposed by the writers to purge itself of what makes it morally different from the Alliance.

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I’ve no power over Blizz’s writing team. If I did you’d see a lot more of the Forsaken and Worgen, and I’d let the Elves be problematic again.

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