Guilty by association, I guess. The first time we see Night Elves interacting with the Alliance, at all, is in the first mission of the Night Elf campaign, and at that time the Horde and Jaina’s crew are working side by side hunting for demons in Ashenvale forest. This is after Grom had slain Cenarius, mind you, so I doubt the Night Elves were very hesitant to attack any allies to the Horde.
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Eh, I don’t quite agree. Well I guess it depends on how meta you feel like going in this conversation.
Sure on one hand it’s the writer’s fault because Thrall can’t be responsible since he’s a fictional character and his actions are/were dictated by writers. But if you’re making this argument Thrall never even technically made any decisions in the first place, so they can’t even be good or bad.
But if you’re trying to analyze Thrall the fictional character then they absolutely were poor decisions and wouldn’t have suddenly become good decisions if the writers bailed him out for making them.
Maybe. Honestly I’d much prefer someone else take on the Warchief mantle, though whoever it is should espouse the “honorable savage” concept that is supposed to be the core of the Horde.
Don’t be disingenuous. Horde since the launch of WoW has expressly not been “bad guys”. We can certainly argue details and nuances, but the core conceit of WoW and what was sold to everyone upon launch is that both Alliance and Horde were heroes. I know the concept that Horde aren’t villains is a problem for you and you will probably keep pushing this narrative, but if you can’t let it go, you should at least try harder to be less transparent about it.
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Lmao. So many haters spouting degenerate, exclamatory statements. Not even offering counter arguments, just spam, “THIS IS TRASH!” “WRITERS SUCK!” BFA IS GARBAGE!"
It’s clear proof to the claim that Blizzard doesn’t listen to the fanbase, and I can’t blame them. Who’d want to talk to these entitled brats?
Literally this, the new writers likes to kick every race except human potential to make their self inserts more important or pet characters(looking at you Golden with Jaina and her imaginary son Anduin)
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I’m’a put my Garrosh pants on and respond in the best way I can think of right now.
Thrall made Garrosh warchief!
Thrall knew Sylvannas was up to no-good!
Thrall allowed his new Horde to idolize the “heroes” of the old Horde, who butchered and slaughtered their way across Azeroth!
Thrall walked away from the Horde right after a civil war, and he did nothing to help put things back aright!
Thrall
Failed
ME!!
… Err, the Horde.
Ok, now with that out of my system… Yeah. In addition, his reign over the Horde was highlighted by his hands-off approach to all the sketchy things going on, the antagonizing of Alliance camps, and when he had a hot-headed military commander questioning him at every turn and trying to push a conflict with the Alliance during the Northrend campaign… He shrugged his shoulders, gave Garry his big chair and said “this will be fine. It will all work out.”
No, Thrall failed his own vision of the Horde.
I feel part of the reason the story fails so hard for the Horde is that the Alliance isn’t a compelling enough opponent.
We have ended up saving the Horde more time that we have attempted to defeat them its getting ridiculous.
If they had the Alliance actively attacking the Horde and winning battles.
Like Night Elves driving the Horde from Ashenvale denying them the resources they need.
Actively hunting undead to return them to the Grave as the alliance sees it as a Mercy.
Or trying to convert members of the Horde to the light.
The Alliance doesn’t need to be commit horrible atrocities it just needs to be more proactive in trying to defeat a faction that has be trying to kill them since its creation. Instead of all this got to save the horde from it self crud.
Instead the Horde has become its own worst enemy. Consistently having to fight its own leaders and people in civil wars.
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