Except that it’s a game, and if I am plowing through enemies, why do I care if I am optimal, or if I just like how many demons I can have out at one time? If a talent gives me more demons concurrently, I’ll probably take it, regardless of what the parses say. I don’t do the things that need parses, so I go my own way.
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That is fine and you should but the way you want to play should not limit the way I or anyone else wants to play.
pulling the rip cord means let us play outside the box. Not doing so makes us have to stay inside the box .
I you want to be stuck in the box more power to you . I just want to try different combinations to find what I feel is fun for me and to be honest I don’t care if it is the mythic raid /mythic + metas because I don’t do mythic + and only mythic raids post expansion .
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#PullTheRipCord
Because Players only give the new game one chance and do not come back later on. If we want Shadowlands to be the greatest it can be it needs to be great from Day 1.
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It’s not about the way I want to play. It’s about the way the systems are being designed for all of us to play. I like the system, but my like for it has no bearing on the development.
I don’t want you to be restricted-- I don’t care what you do. I like the system where we’re all restricted.
If the system is opened up, I’ll probably switch around the same way I do with talents, because that’s what the system is. I think it’s interesting to perform as best you can under the restrictions imposed by the system. I’m not about to do some self-imposed challenge, because that’s not the system. It might be silly and splitting hairs, but that’s my feeling on it.
To be honest I want to pick a covenant and stick with it .
What I would like to see is possibly untying the class abilities from them . Maybe as we are leveling and working with the various covenants we earn the class abilities . Then when we go and join our chosen covenant have the soul binds work with all of the 4 abilities .
I think that would open up the possibility for different builds to try .
I would also have it so that if one ability is say in use you couldn’t use another one . Kind of like when you had your garrison abilities one from one zone wouldn’t work in another.
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That’s how I’d like to do it. Let me pick a “main” Covenant and then rank up renown with others to unlock their ability/soulbinds.
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Very well. It makes the game 4x more complicated as we’d be forced to adapt to and learn four different covenants. That is why I would prefer that they not be switchable.
There’s my civil disagreement, now let’s see if I don’t just continue to get bullied and harassed over my opinion by the typical folks in this thread like with the last one.
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RIPCORD PULLERS, FORM RANKS!
LET’S PULL THIS RIPCORD!
Don’t let your players fall flat on the ground and don’t let yourself kill your game Blizzard!
#PullTheRipcord
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That can be done while also decoupling power from them.
Your epeen is showing. I’m not impressed.
After Samtaya’s excellent post about how we don’t have all the information yet, I have to wonder.
Not only do we not know the mechanic for switching and how difficult it’s going to be beyond a vague description of “a week or two” but we also have no idea what pulling the ripcord is going to look like. If Blizzard has a backup plan, what form does it take, and how is it going to work? I’ve heard many different options proposed and tbh I have to wonder if Blizzard’s backup plan might cause more trouble than the original one, a la rotating corruption vendor.
That being said, I’m still in support of opening the system up, but now my question is how. Honestly, just decoupling the abilities from the covenants seems to be the easiest solution.
Well I will grant you the system would be more complicated by having you take in more information, it would also be slightly less complicated because you’d be given more time to decipher that information. Being forced to make the choice immediately after hitting level cap without the option of experimenting and with the knowledge that a wrong choice is going to mean that you lock yourself out of returning to a covenant if it gets tuned different later. This now means that a majority of players are just going to follow a guide and choose the most popular option.
The way the systems are intertwined, I don’t think this is a good solution. As they stand right now, Soulbinds have unique interactions with their associated Covenant. Kyrian Soulbinds don’t, currently, have a mechanic to work with Necrolord abilities, as they provide unique mechanics and utilities. They’re not number boosts.
I suppose it’s in the realm of possibility to somehow make the Soulbinds all the same, but I’m never a big fan of homogenization.
I’ve seen a proposed solution that allows us to earn the right to use the soulbinds associated with each covenant through rep or renown, but when using a soulbind you have to use the ability the tree is tied to. That could be a workaround of sorts, allowing the soulbinds to still have interaction with the abilities and not all be the same.
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You’re right they don’t but they could be made to do so .
I also don’t think the soul binds should be the same . I think they should work differently with each of the 4 class abilities and different for each class.
I think that would likely be the best scenario for decoupling the Covenants and the powers, but at that point, why? It seems weird to me that I’d be Night Fae affiliated, but if I pick the Maldraxxus ability/ies I can only Soulbind Maldraxxus, and not my Night Fae buddies. I’d prefer Covenant swapping entirely at that point. That, or…
This would be ideal. Even where I stand, it would be super freaking cool to have Venthyr-empowered Night Fae abilities. Blood Tree Stomp, gooooooo!
But this would also be so much more work for Blizzard, I don’t think it’s even in the realm of possibility. So yeah, we can totally agree: your solution is my very favorite, but Blizzard sucks and there’s probably no way we can get it ever.
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Not really related, but I would take Blizzard locking me out of covenants entirely if they could cool me down by like…10 degrees right now, it’s way too hot, screw this.
I have a better Idea, how about lets not jump out of the plane at all and instead have a sold idea how to land the plane. It is long overdue to re-evaluate the state of the game and system for the sake of system.
Thanks for this post 
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Also seriously…
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My idea is a loyalty reward system. Not really my idea, Shardling’s idea, but I’ve jumped on this wagon. If you choose to stick with a covenant, you get bonuses relevant to the covenant, give you more damage or stats or whatever. But, you can also just swap to whatever covenant you want at the expense of the loyalty rewards.