Retail begins when one steps through the dark portal into tbc.
An easy heuristic is this - if there are ret paladins in pve = retail.
Iâd want to say probably the announcement of WoW to begin with, but knowing these people their response was probably something like âugh an MMORPG instead of Warcraft 4? These guys donât know what theyâre doing Warcraft is DEAD!â
Understandable. I switched sides on that debate, actually. At a certain point you have to abandon ideology and accept reality.
Anyway, this is a Seasonal server. Expect changes. I donât know why anyone thought there wouldnât be.
Gotta love how the option to toggle the EXP buff on or off is just gone. It simply isnât Classic if Iâm outleveling the zones Iâm in while Iâm in them. There wasnât any reason to take this toggle away.
If I didnât want a tormented leveling experience and being destitutely poor, Iâd be on retail.
I uh know a guy who thinks thisâŚ
Honestly I think they all just expected SoM part 2. Clearly half these people never read any of the pre launch info.
submit a bug report, as mine is active and can be toggled. Your game/UI may be bugged out.
The game first launched in 2004. That is when Retail started.
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Is it? I havenât thought to check myself but I was under the impression you could turn it off at any innkeeper as
You legit just said the reason in the previous paragraph.
Heâs probably level 25 and lost the buff.
What are you talking about, i never made that claim.
Somebody else said more people played wotlk classic than vanillia classic and linked raiding population numbers thinking the population numbers he linked was player numbers and not raiding numbers.
I told him it was raiding numbers not player numbers and also said most people likely didnt raid in classic due to the grind so its not an accurate dataset to use if you want to back up your claim that wotlk classic was more popular than vanillia classic on releaseâŚ
Which is completely reasonable and he agreed, and you came in between our conversation just arguing for the sake of arguing not to actually hold a point
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100% supporting this post. Classic has been always about journey n most of these buffs are actually a nerf to the experience.
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What is other people leveling faster going to change for you? You can opt out of it.
I miss Despitebeing.
He was more transparent.
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You may be saying this from a sarcastic angle, but gold having a value is precisely why there are gold sellers.
The value of gold does not need to become zero, it just needs to worth less than the resources the bots consume to generate them.
Please respond to the point being made instead of deflecting. You are making a claim (raiding wasnât as big a deal in Vanilla Classic as it is in Wrath Classic) and providing no source to back up that claim
Because it changes the games design. Just like how people dont have to use lfr, wow token, cross server queues, dungeon queues, level boosts they dont have to do it but it fundementally changes the game forever to the point where gameplay is vastly different in retail and classic so different that people consider them different games deaign wise.
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What point, i didnt state it as a fact i said âlikelyâ.
The fact that you think comparing raid numbers of 2019 vanilla to wotlk raiding is a good argument on why vanillia was more unpopular truly shows how ignorant you are.
Me saying after the fact that using raid data isnt a valid way to compare populations is completely valid. Its generally accepted that most people that play vanillia dont hit max so the fact you would argue for this silly comparison is funny
If you havent played vanilla maybe go look up the average leveling speed times. Because its significant so much so that most dont make it to 60.
Right so you are just vaguely offended by how other people play even when it has no impact on you.
Offended?
Im not offended, im just calling out people who are ignorant on the reasons why classic wow exists in the first place. It exists because of retail wows qol changes that fundementally changed the game
The devs have stated classic design fundementals in dev talks before, why act ignorant of it. Do you not understand? People want to get the fundamentals to the version of classic as to not invalidate the whole reason for its existence it will just be a retail cline amthat eventually dies when the next retail expac comes out, if you want the qol changes play retail its a good game.
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Me too, I used to argue that tbc = tbc and wotlk = wotlk, but they convinced me that they are all just forms of retail.
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