I wouldn’t say, because of what you just mentioned is key to the lore given in quests:
As this quest talks about Shadowglen and Nightsabers this is very much reflective of Night Elf culture, which would include Night Elf Druids, and all the Classic Night Elf classes as well, for that matter.
I feel that’s quite the stretch. It’s not an unreasonable assumption, by any means, but I disagree. Do you feel the same way about the other race quests where the same happens?
Remember, we’re talking about the tangible lore, not headcanon.
If you find me an example of another race quest talking about the need to balance population because “The resources of the forest will be depleted too quickly if the problem is not addressed” then I would say it applies to those races as well. But other “kill X of Y” quests have different flavor lore.
By “flavour” I simply meant the variable nature of the type of quest. “Kill X wolves, they are killing the sheep”, “Kill X boars, they are eating my crops” - these are different flavours of that quest.
Take, for example, this quest in Eversong Woods:
These are difficult times for us, . It was a very hard decision to burn the woods bordering the Ghostlands to prevent the Scourge’s expansion.
The treants, who have been our friends for years, are now trying to foster the regrowth of the forest along the Scorched Grove.
This is a painful thing to ask of you, , but we’ve failed to convince our former allies to cease their endeavors. I need you to stop them by the only means that remain to us: force
This has little to no bearing on the overall lore of the blood elves - such a suggestion, from this quest, that blood elves strive for natural equilibrium would be rather silly. Instead, like how the aforementioned Shadowglen quests roughly represent the night elves’ care for nature, this quest shows how blood elves are ruthless to meet their desired goals. Both concepts are not foreign to each respective race; likely one of each ones’ many purposes is to showcase such aspects of the races’ culture.
And, it’s as you said, flavour lore. Those shadowglen quests aren’t casting sweeping claims about the culture, it’s providing just that: flavour.
It’s still weird, tho. I mean, it’s Cataclysm questing so it’s in good company but still…having the Cenarian Circle use blight is a weird narrative choice. Not quite “and then Thrall appointed Gallywix” weird, but up there.
You’re proving my point for me:
These two are about saving one’s livelihood, not the balance of nature.
This is about giving up on magical restoration of a forest because of the need to stop the spread of a magical plague.
That is to say:
While the Night Elf one is about the balance of nature specifically.
This is because you are interpreting the Blood Elves’ quest incorrectly. What this tells us is that the Blood Elves culturally are concerned about the undead still plaguing their lands. Which they very much are.
I don’t disagree. But like I said, there was this quest from back in Wrath, so it’s not even that bad:
And Karnum’s Glade in Desolace has a great big moonwell in the middle of it.
No, I am not. I am looking at it through the frame that you have presented me with. I also explicitly claimed that I was not interpreting it in that way. The quests you linked explicitly mentioned food for the animals, as well. It also states that it was a “necessary evil” - I don’t think that any culture that believes truly and wholly in balance as a principle tenant of their culture would call it a necessary evil. But, alas. Here we are.
It’s hard to take you seriously when you pull these moves and intentionally read what I say in an obtuse and incorrect way.
That explains why I don’t take you seriously. I’m going to save us some time and stop reading your posts.
Zangarmarsh has a lot of pretty spots if you know where to look. Wetlands have their own kind of beauty.
Do we actually know that it’s the Blight and not a modified strain of it? I went through the quest text and it doesn’t seem to use the word Blight anywhere, though it’s heavily implied. But since the recipe uses kodo horns, I assume it’s similar to the Blight but not the Blight itself.
Just discovered the meaning of the word Nature: It is rooted in the Latin word for “Born”
The Deserts aren’t Natural since they unlike Plants aren’t born from anything, same goes for Non-World Souls like Draenor…
Nature is Organic Life and Titans! Anything created by them is Artificial including Beaver Dams, Bee Hives and Birds’ Nests.
What? Words are allowed to deviate from their roots.
From what i understand of the druids that follow malfurion’s teaching, if nature dies because of natural course, like the natural change in climatw changes a river to a desert area or something, then they don’t interfere, but if the change was forced by something unnatural, then they can act, like the sundering or the cataclysm. Now places like Val Sharah i assume were already full of nature and they just upgraded the place.
Even that’s not consistent, because we’re told the Cenarion Circle refuses to repair the damage done to Duratar by Daelin Proudmoore’s deforestation. (Of course, we all know the real reason for this is because the writers want to keep Orgrimmar resource-starved to drive conflict.)
Hm? That’s news to me. That or I forgot it. Was this in a book somewhere?
It was something I saw on the old board before it went down, unfortunately, so I can’t locate the source or context. I don’t recall a book or quest being referenced, so maybe it was from a lore Q&A or tweet. I haven’t been able to locate a confirmation of it, though, so take it as anecdotal, I guess. (If it does turn out to have been garbled, I’ll be happy, because my main is a druid and I rolled my eyes so very hard at that idea.)
I don’t think that it would make very much sense for the Cenarion Circle to refuse, especially when eve more of the forest was cut down using fel magic by the Burning Blade.
Agreed, but it’s exactly the kind of response I can see the devs giving to a fan asking the question.
PS: The way I remember it being phrased, the CC were refusing to fix Durotar out of respect for the natural order, not spite or anything.
I don’t think a lot of tweet responses are canon any more, since Sean Copeland took his twitter down and went on to say that Chronicle was meant to override previous contradictions that had been building up.