The case for dual spec

Eh. Not all improvements or changes were slippery slope to doom. I refuse to believe that anyone who is still playing today (or if not playing today continued to play for any amount of expansions after vanilla) didn’t like at least some of the changes.

Regardless whether we like them or not, they do not belong in this game IMO. They shouldn’t even be considered.

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WoW just worked in Vanilla. Whether by design or pure luck, Blizzard put together a great game than managed to capture many play styles. It was a kind of synergy that made it work, all the little parts together made something more interesting than the parts alone would predict. If you start picking out little pieces that you don’t like, the synergy falls apart eventually. We don’t want to risk that.

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The fact that this is upvoted shows how much the retail my little pony players have infiltrated the Classic scene.

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Another NO here, coming from someone who remembers vanilla and recently played through beta. Stay in retail with these ideas rather than trying to change Classic, plain and simple.

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The posts opposing it are far more upvoted, thankfully!

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spe·cial·i·za·tion

/ˌspeSHələˈzāSH(ə)n,ˌspeSHəˌlīˈzāSH(ə)n/

noun

  1. the process of concentrating on and becoming expert in a particular subject or skill.
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“You think you do, but you don’t.” That philosophy doesn’t work with us vanilla folks, sorry.

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Luckily, the opposition out favors 3 : 1.

I can’t disagree with what you’re saying. I would point out that post dual spec, gold mattered less and less. Even with bandaid gold sinks like Wrath flying, MoP flying, and expensive mounts, it wasn’t enough; once and done. Expensive mounts only gold sink certain players. This in combination with more lucrative gold farming avenues couldn’t keep up.

My speculation is all of the above in conjunction with a dying playerbase(Think of all the dead guild’s banks that aquired loads of gold/materials). Left real market driving items like consumables to only get more expensive each expansion.

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this dude doesn’t want the unarmored mounts added but he’s asking for duel spec LMFAO

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He has actually come around some, he’d like them implemented with I believe a 4 week timer, to promote a high exclusivity rate.

“Night elves should have been horde race and forsaken should have been alliance race”
“Paladins should have been viable tanks”
“Emerald dream should have been in the game”

Etc.

You know what all of these statements have in common? They’re irrelevant. Classic isn’t about what “should” have been, that’s the territory of remasters.

I believe it’s already been explained a thousand times to you by now that Classic is meant to be an authentic as possible recreation of vanilla wow, not a remaster.

And you’re still arguing as if it’s a remaster project.

No, it’s not. The point is to recreate Vanilla as it was, not to make it more enjoyable.

You’ve been here for more than a year and you STILL don’t get it. Why is that?

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Oi, I would appreciate it if you didn’t insult My Little Pony, thank you.

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I would argue there is.

The point is to illustrate your character’s journey and development, as they gain experience and become more specialized in a certain field.

That’s the whole fantasy and lore perspective behind the talents mechanic.

There’s is literally no fantasy or lore perspective behind “duel spec”, that’s literally just a game mechanic for the sake of convenience.

The fact the ability to respecc exists is simply to prevent softlocks, but even that has no story behind it and is simply meant to be used sparingly.

I would argue if you constantly switch between two specs, you’re playing the game wrong.

Either use two different characters of the same class to use your optimized specs, or use a spec that finds a balance between them.

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While we’re on the talents and speccing topic, does anyone know if we’ll have that system where you can turn on a confirmation each time you place a talent point?

Yes its “not in classic” but this was purely a system to prevent a misclick costing you 50g.

Best way to prevent a misclick: Pay very, very close attention to what you’re doing.

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The problem with “dual spec” is that it undermines the whole class fantasy notion of having dedicated ourselves to mastering a particular set of talents.

Dual spec is just a convenience mechanic, but worse than that, it doesn’t make rational sense for anyone to be able to suddenly switch their expertise in something instantly.

I can imagine, in a fantasy novel, a character visiting a special person who has the ability to help you retrain to have more of an affinity for fire spells.

However, I can’t imagine, in the context of a fantasy novel, someone snapping their fingers and saying “boom! I was an expert of frost, but now I’m an expert with fire!”.

Duel spec is purely a mechanic, not something that has any RPG flavor.

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I would be very much in favor of Blizzard removing the option to respec altogether. Maybe a couple “freebe’s” in case you messed up during levelling, but that’s it.
Be the character you designed. You choose to optimize PvE, live with it. You choose to optimize PvP, live with it. A hybrid build works for you? Go with that.

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The general consensus here seems to be in favor of adding the convenience of dual spec to classic, even with the die hard no-changers.

Please Blizz, hear your people!

No. go to hell. No changes