I wasn’t being serious, just the thought came to mind.
Well now I know why the August Celestials went so easy on Garrosh.
Him chowing down on the heart basically ended a multi-millenial long threat to Pandaria, so who cares if a little temporary ecological damage was done.
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None of this makes sense. People keep saying that Anduin is pushed onto us everywhere but… what?
Legion - Anduin gets one moment where he takes his father’s weapon. He becomes the new king of Stormwind but overall gets only a little bit of time dedicated to him. Not even remotely a main character.
BfA - Anduin gets little focus. Sylvanas is the faction leader who gets the spotlight here, while Anduin is more in the background and serves briefly as a tool for Saurfang’s story to proceed. Not a main character.
Shadowlands - He’s actually important here, but far from the focal point. He serves as a means for Sylvanas to spew her exposition and then becomes a puppet of the Jailer. He gets an encounter in a raid, and then ultimately becomes less relevant afterwards with other characters again taking the spotlight. An important secondary character, but not a main character.
Dragonflight - He is literally not here. Not a character at all.
Like god ok if you just don’t want Anduin in the story at all fine but at least be honest.
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Take your own advice. Anyone reading your post can see how disingenuous you are being.
He replaces Varian and becomes the leader of the Alliance. He appears in Legion multiple times. From the intro to Stormheim through to the Broken Shore:
He gets as much as Sylvanas. He is all over the art, along side Sylvanas. He is in multiple cinematics, along side Sylvanas.
Just utter nonsense to say he got little focus. He is the Alliance mirror to Sylvanas, and as much focus as her.
Saving Anduin is a whole plot point. His trauma and drama is in multiple cinematics.
What are you even on about? He gets multiple fully rendered and voiced cinematics, as many or more so than Jaina, Thrall, and Sylvanas - and Anduin wasn’t even in WC 3 like those other 3.
Yes. Not just me and not just Horde fans. It is all over this thread, even though you chose me to reply to.
If it doesn’t make sense to you, perhaps you should check your bias. Unless you are trolling, only a Troll or a pathological liar would say Anduin wasn’t a big part of Shadowlands and BfA.
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Right you saying the exact same things that I said but slightly more verbose really proves your point. I think people on this forum hyperfixate on specific parts of the plot and forget the entire expansions and hundreds of hours of content around them.
In terms of time spent on him Anduin hasn’t been an extremely prominent character in the game. Like, seriously, I’ve done just about every storyline in this game and he’s like a blip that appears so briefly. The time I think he got the most dedicated to him was actually MoP, even more than Shadowlands where yes he was also an important character. Other than that? Never really.
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Yes, it proves that you leave whole storylines involving Anduin out of your little screed. You diminish their impact on the lore and our experience with that character.
While just about everyone else can see what is plain. Your lies and omissions don’t change the facts.
None of it makes sense to you, when it is apparent to just about everyone else posting here. That shows it is a “you” problem, and an issue with your ability to comprehend facts.
You can look into that, or not. If the lore doesn’t make sense to you, I can’t help you.
It isn’t hyper fixating to focus on the plot points Blizzard highlights. The plot points that drive the story, instead of some pet battle world quest or what ever other content.
What ever other content you are discussing that may be forgettable - the content Blizzard highlights with cinematics and voice lines is usually the stuff that impacts the lore.
And Anduin gets that attention way too much, and it is always that one note crybaby business.
The fact that you say “never” shows you are wrong, either through ignorance or a pathological urge to lie.
He is all over BfA, in multiple cinematics. I saw him a lot as Horde, from the rescue of Talanji to the end of the expac, when he speaks in Org - with multiple cinematics in between.
Follow your own advice.
People who bring up ”being honest” like you do bring it up because being a liar is their default nature. Most people just are honest without having to mention it.
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No, you really didn’t list any story point I never brought up. You said that in BfA Anduin gets an equal amount of focus as Slyvanas. Wrong. That’s a blatantly untrue statement.
You said saving Anduin is a plot point in SL and that his truama gets focused on. First off, I stated that Anduin is an important secondary character in SL. He isn’t a main character. Nothing you said sways me otherwise. I don’t care how many voiced cinematics he gets he is far from the most prominent character, he’s just a member of the cast and not the most important.
Also saying his truama is a whole thing in SL I disagree. We’re really only getting to that now in TWW. Y’know, the one where I assume he actually will be a main character.
Wow no wonder you don’t like WoW lore you only care about the worst parts of it. No, just because you have your things you like to fixate on doesn’t elevate them. Just because there is a a lot of cinematics that have Anduin in them doesn’t make me feel he has been elevated above the rest of the cast. The cinematics are nice but they’re brief, and aren’t often the points that drive the story forward.
If you actually cared about the actual breadth of storytelling in Warcraft you’d recognize that Anduin actually isn’t super prominent. Instead you’re trying to talk to me about box art and trailer cinematics. Sad!
No it shows I’m not being super specific or attentive to my grammar usage on a Warcraft forum. Who cares.
He’s in BfA. He isn’t a focal point even remotely. I’m sorry you had to like, I don’t know, had to hear him speak for like 5 minutes total. That must be very hard for you.
Because it’s only special since it’s Anduin. Pretty much every DK and Forsaken have dealt with worse, since they were also killed and used as puppets. You don’t see these guys weeping constantly.
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Most people who played BfA know that for the lie it is. You clearly either make up lies or just are flat out wrong.
As I said - it shows you are either a liar or just flat out wrong.
You admit you used the wrong words and you were wrong by using “never” - since that is not true. Making it wrong.
Small wonder Warcraft lore doesn’t make sense. You don’t even know what the word “never” means, and you are just wrong more and more with every post.
Maybe the lore will make more sense to you when you learn how words are used.
Damn he knows I’m right so he’s resorting to pointing out my usage of a single word in a casually typed out response. You love to see it.
Yes, you are either a liar or flat out wrong.
In that case, you were flat out wrong.
You are the one sitting here expressing how the lore doesn’t make sense to you, when it is plain to everyone else:
Learn how words are used, and the lore discussions might make more sense to you.
Hey it’s fine you can keep making your entire argument about nitpicking a single word, it’s about the maximum amount of value someone like you could ever provide to a conversation anyways. Not like you’re actually saying anything less than in your prior posts.
I’m glad you know your lane. You can police grammar while the big boys discuss the story. Good boy.
Pointing out how wrong you are is a lane. You keep it open by being wrong.
Too bad you don’t know… basic words… so the lore doesn’t make sense to you.
Maybe read a dictionary, and you won’t be reduced to crying about how the lore doesn’t make sense to you, while every one else is having the discussion.
Oh no you misunderstand, see, for claiming to understand so many words you don’t seem to be very good at putting them together.
I wasn’t saying the lore doesn’t make sense. I was saying your argument doesn’t make sense. Now, I get it, putting words together into sentences and putting those sentences into a conversational context is hard. You’ll get it with time and effort though.
He’s been pushed on us every expansion since MoP except for WoD. He’s had more books with him as the lead character than any other character in WoW.
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Books, maybe. I haven’t read a lot of them in recent years.
In-game? No. He was fairly important in MoP, had a role to play in SL, and will be important in TWW. I don’t see how this is too much.
It’s way too much.
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You’re free to give any examples you want. But in this current expansion he isn’t relevant. In SL he wasn’t present for a lot of it, relegated to some scenes of him imprisoned and then finally a big encounter towards the end. In BfA he was primarily used as a means to advance the story of Saurfang. In Legion he really only gets one big moment. I’m not seeing it.
Considering most racial leaders have relevance like once every 3-4 expansions, Anduin being at the center of the story for multiple expansions and having more books than anyone else about him it’s definitely way too much.
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No wonder you are wrong so often, and ignorant of the lore.
I was sticking to the game play because you brought up gameplay and questing, but the lore encompasses more than the game.
Anduin is heavy in the books, from War Crimes through to Before the Storm.
Now, if we are talking the whole of the lore outside of gameplay:
Again, you are just wrong.
He had a small appearance in the book Shadows Rising - and it was great. He didn’t consume the whole narrative. He was a part of it. And those scenes gave us insight into the character, without beating the concepts to death.
I enjoy Anduin in the story, he has a role to play. Just not so much.
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