The average m+ players should be given the choice to pew pew like s3 DF +0 to +9

I categorizes 3 types of m+ players.
First one r those who just play for fun, want to get loot easily, don wan to do mechanic correctly.

2nd one r those who really learn how to do mechanic correctly and try to improve their skills, but due to certain skill issues, cannot do very challenging content

3rd one r those elites who can do mechanic well and have very good skills and can do very challenging content.

I am the second one. Now due to the squish of key of m+, all first and second categories players are forced to do the same content which lead to lot of disasters in m+ PuG group.

I love WoW. Pls make m+ really available for most players who love m+. But now +2 to +5 is too hard for most average players. Pls give them some easy m+ content to do.

If possible, remove the time limit. Leave the time limit for MDI only. Time limit is really toxic for most occasions.

You can pew pew. Its really easy. Just play the game.

It amazes me you type out words with the exception of the word ARE.

No the 1st group of people are playing delves the content that was designed for them as the replacement of the old 2-9 key bracket and from what I can see they are having a blast with it and im happy for em. The players in the second group are as you said

And are the people you see in the 2-9 range currently.

Again they did and they called them delves they are over that way >.

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Ya no, do delve this is litterally the whole point of delve.

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i dunno about that, how about just the death timer?

Reading OPs post caused me to suffer a minor brain aneurism.

Can we please have spelling / grammer to at least legible levels? There is an edit button, so if you make typos you van even fix them post fact!

The first group of players are ones that likely should have stopped at heroics dungeons. Here mechanics don’t matter, you do dungeons and you get gear to match the challenge.

The second group that want to actually learn mechanics but are capped are served by the mythic 0 dungeons. These award better gear, are a challenge above heroic and are essentially like doing an old +10.

The last group are being challenged currently.

So…mythic 0s?

Lower tuned, untimed dungeons?

Dropping veteran gear with a champion vault, which is what I believe the old low keys did as well?

As others have said.
2-6 range is exactly what Bountiful T7-8 delves are for.
They are not timed, can be solod and completed quicker than M+. You can even go in with a group.

You get 4-5 keys per week just by doing weekly quests and guaranteed Champion Gear at the end with Hero Vault.

Ince you feel confident, you can even try M+ to get crests to upgrade your gear!

Tanks are players typically more skilled than most dps, they are always going to speed run a dungeon regardless if there is a timer or not.

I can’t believe this went untouched lmao.

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Since I started playing as a Restoration Shaman, it’s been so much easier to get into groups.
With just a bit of time each week, I went from an item level of 58X to a score of 2200.
No more listening to Yeastyholes preach that it’s my fault for not getting into groups or forming a team.
Everyone, come play Shaman!

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i can’t either, but he’s not wrong…so… :slight_smile:

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I mean you consciously chose to swap off a class that you couldn’t play effectively and had a lower opinion with the M+ pugging community. Thats playing the game fam.

Just not elemental lmao