šŸŸ The Ankoan and Jinyu Race Discussion Thread

To expand further on them. These are the classes I think the Ankoan are most likely to have:

Warrior: This one is a given, shouldnā€™t need explanation

Shaman: The Ankoan seem to worship Neptulon, which is in contrast to the Dark Ironā€™s Fire, and the Kul-Tiranā€™s air.

Hunter: A natural choice

Rogue: The Ankoan seem to take any advantage they can against the naga. Given their Japanese theme, theyā€™d also be fish ninja

Druid: See above, they carry the blessings of the sea, and tend to the depths and shallows.

Monk: After centuries of seperation from their landlocked brethern, they learn monkish arts from the Jinyu.

Mage: Likely their only cloth class, we can see Arcanists in Mezzamere. Likely learning magic from the ancient Highborne ruins scattered in the Great Sea.

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So. I mulled over some of the Ankoan dialogue. I did a pet battle WQ on my alt and was alerted to this bit of dialogue:

" Once, the children would fill them with sand and hang them on the coral as decorations.

That was long ago."

This is what I think may be referenced in Okaniā€™s dialogue. The waveblade used to be a prosperous clan. The naga forced them to live a nomadic lifestyle. Then they raided the Waveblade, slaughtering most of them. Including the children and their leader.

With their clan functionally extinct, their leader asked them to swear that they would take vengeance on the naga, Azshara and their civilization itself.

Even when you give a young Nagaā€™s fork (that you presumably wrenched from itā€™s dead hands). Itanu says that he doesnā€™t care where it comes from though.

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-Insert Spiderman meme which changed words to-
I want Sethā€™rak!

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Gilgoblins can probably be Druids due to worshipping Graal.
Not to mention they make active attempts to maintain their ecosystem, they are quite different then regular Goblins.

Also I think Junker Gnomes might be a Neutral Allied race.

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So my understanding of loa lore is a bit shaky, but I believe that worshipping a loa doesnā€™t necessarily grant one a path to druidism. Like, the Zandalari pantheon is entirely comprised of loas, but only those that follow Gonk are druids because Gonk is literally ā€œlord of shapes.ā€ Paā€™ku is followed by their priests and Rezan by their paladins. Other loa arenā€™t necessarily class-specific though they do have ties to the fauna of Zandalar, such as Kragā€™wa, Shadra, and Hireek.

Gral is a really minor loa in the pantheon overall, as evidenced by the fact that you donā€™t come across him at any point in the main Horde storyline for any of the three zones and playable Zandalari trolls canā€™t pray to him for any benefits. But the interesting thing is that, despite the relative scarcity of Gral as a character, I believe heā€™s the only loa that the Alliance can quest for in Zuldazar. Perhaps a little hint that his followers would play a major role in the Allianceā€™s war effort?

Of course, if it turns out Gral does have the power to bestow druidism upon his followers, I certainly wonā€™t complain. It isnā€™t supported by lore at present butā€¦ I meanā€¦

Sharkbears.

Cā€™mon now.

You get a druidic shape by being blessed by a Loa/Wild-god. Itā€™s why Nelves can take the form of a bear (through Ursoc/Ursol) or a cat (Ashamane).

Hirā€™eek gives the jungle trolls a bat form, etc.

So long as the loa is willing, theyā€™ll give you the capacity to shapeshift.

Gral is very powerful, probably amongst the most powerful beings in the sea. His astral projection can maul Naga. Heā€™s even bloody called ā€œThe Loa of the Seaā€. He can give his followers a shark form, and probably other forms the same way gonk gives his followers multiple forms.

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ive always thought an androgynous would be cool

i played with the idea of playable arakkoa in my head

instead of male or female, the gender option would be changed to Cursed or Adherent

just a thought thats been in the back of my mind, i dont think blizz would try it.

Thought of some Racials for our fish boys:

Fathomstalker: Increased movement speed underwater + water-breathing.

Wavedancing: When using an ability, you have a small chance to use it twice

Tidehunterā€™s Blessing: Ensnare an enemy with water, rooting them in place and applying a frost DoT.

Since the new patch has dropped, has anyone checked Okani for new dialogue?

Exalted with the Ankoans. Completed the quest to defeat Azshara. Completed the war campaign in its entirety.

Still says the same thing.

My frustration is immeasurable!!!

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Maybe itā€™s meant for 8.3? We would have 'recuperated from our losses" then or afterwards.

That dialogue being there is fishy(heh), theyā€™ve given Ankoan more work than a throwaway race ought to have.

So. I just turned in some flasks to Artisan Itanu and surprisingly, he bowed at me. Thereā€™s also a red ankoan sentry outside the inn with an idle pose I havenā€™t seen anywhere else.

Are these new animations?

So, I was thinking of musical motifs for the Ankoan, and the Hissho from Endless Space came to mind:

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Something along the lines of the middle part would be really cool. Thatā€™s beautiful.

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Please no. You donā€™t know the kind of stress that would cause on Moonguard to include fish people. WoW really donā€™t need that type of press.

Iā€™ve been asking for Naga as a playable race for a while now. I think this would be a nice middle ground. Same with people who wanna play as murlocs

They were technically one of our first Allied Races, and if Blizzard finds a way to make them playable I would be really happy. :slight_smile:

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I feel that Ankoan are a work-around of that. Similar, but distinct from Naga. With their own wonderful Samurai aesthetic.

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The red ankoan isnā€™t a static npc. Most of the guards at the ankoan camp are procedurally generated, meaning their appearance varies daily. The non-ankoan guards, e.g. those in the 7th legion, have their race and gender randomized as well.

There will always be an ankoan guard, red or otherwise, standing in front of the inn. That pose theyā€™re doing (with the hand on the hip) seems reminiscent of many of the poses they added to various NPCs in BFA, and I couldnā€™t remember if the guard was always doing that. Unfortunately, I found a video someone made showing off Mezzamere the day patch 8.2 went live, and yeah; theyā€™re there, making the same pose. It isnā€™t new.

The only major update for the time being is that they altered the follower campfire a bit by giving it its own pedestal. The campfire itself is now about waist-high rather than just being on the ground. Itā€™s probably a convenience thing more than anything else, but itā€™sā€¦ something. I guess.

Hoping for some real good news this Blizzcon or for 8.3. The story of the ankoan feels incredibly unfinished, and Okaniā€™s dialogue continues to torment me on a daily basis.

EDIT: Iā€™ll also mention that Iā€™m still routinely checking literally every NPC with the gendertable macro I linked some posts above. There has not been any significant change; Okani and Ori are the only two individuals listed as male. Everyone else in the camp does not have that value defined for them.

Normally my hopes would have been dashed, however, the unique Voice Acting, poke lines, textures and Okaniā€™s dialogue leads me to believe that theyā€™ll be the last Allied Race added.