The alternative to sharding: Patience

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

So sharding with more steps and more actual impact.

[Auddoras-stormrage]

I am down with that.

[Provengreil-senjin (Provengreil)]

Lore’s forum post after Blizzcon

However, realm sharding is one of the best tools we have to keep realms stable when hundreds of players are swarming the same initial few zones and killing the same few mobs (like they will be at the launch of Classic). To that end, we do believe that some form of sharding may be helpful

This makes me wonder if “hundreds of players are swarming in the same zone” creates realm instability (and not merely inconvenience to the players’ efforts to efficiently level), how can the infrastructure handle an un-sharded 300 v 300 WPvP match in Hillsbrad?

I’m betting they let the realm crash, but that’s not even the worst they could do.

Worst case scenario is that they let the realm crash and don’t bring it back up till the next tuesday. Best case scenario is that they redo* cloud services to handle this somehow, and copy the tech back over to BFA as well.

My bet is that it’s closer to worst case.

*tried to say re-ji(G times two)er instead of redo but the forums got mad about it. anyone know why?

[Gnocci-emerald-dream]

The ability to pay to play while others can’t is the very definition of p2w.

This is rich, coming from someone who wont have to pay anything above what they already do to play classic on day one, but people returning just to play classic will be paying $15 a month to access it. With your zyrius-esque logic, playing bfa is p2w for classic launch.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

So you don’t care. Got it. Well I do. And I’ll fight against sharding until it’s gone.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

The ability to pay to play while others can’t is the very definition of p2w.

This is rich, coming from someone who wont have to pay anything above what they already do to play classic on day one, but people returning just to play classic will be paying $15 a month to access it. With your zyrius-esque logic, playing bfa is p2w for classic launch.

You seem to misunderstand the issue. I will happily pay an extra whatever if it means I get an actual advantage in this case early access.

So if you favor early access you favor every other flavor of p2w like tokens.

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

People will already be able to use tokens to pay for classic time.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

People will already be able to use tokens to pay for classic time.

Ah… so you do want tokens in classic?

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

Not in classic itself. It would trivialize various aspects of vanilla.
Nothing prevents anyone from logging into retail and making a character, farming and selling low level mats and paying for wow that way.

[Piptak-wyrmrest-accord]

I wouldn’t mind a paid early access. I’d gladly pay it, and I know many won’t - which to me, would kind of be the point.

So because you have disposable income it’s ok to get an early start. Other folks may not be able to afford that, they may be on a tight budget, perhaps they have limited income or many other reasons.
No, it’s PTW.

[Mogar-stormrage (Mogar)]

So just because you can afford a monthly sub, you can play the game? Other folks may not be able to afford that, they may be on a tight budget, perhaps they have limited income or many other reasons. No, a sub is clearly p2w.

[Piptak-wyrmrest-accord]

So just because you can afford a monthly sub, you can play the game? Other folks may not be able to afford that, they may be on a tight budget, perhaps they have limited income or many other reasons. No, a sub is clearly p2w.

Lol, nice try but you are really reaching.

[Mogar-stormrage (Mogar)]

What you said can be applied word for word to a sub. There no reaching here. It is the exact same thing.

[Piptak-wyrmrest-accord]

As you will, still is PTW.
Also, there was no “early start” in Vanilla… no changes!

[Mogar-stormrage (Mogar)]

There was no sharding either.

[Piptak-wyrmrest-accord]

Aye, and there shouldn’t be sharding in Classic.
I have to wonder if their new “cloud” servers can’t handle the load. If this is the real reason then we may be looking at the sharding creeping into other areas. =(

[Whiskee-azgalor]

Aye, and there shouldn’t be sharding in Classic.
I have to wonder if their new “cloud” servers can’t handle the load. If this is the real reason then we may be looking at the sharding creeping into other areas. =(

Sharding anywhere it is needed is the ticket! And I’ll fight for it to remain.

[Ziryus-doomhammer (Ziryus)]

There was no sharding either.

So what? There’s a lot of out dated tech I won’t be using again in classic.

[Piptak-wyrmrest-accord]

You certainly have the right to express your opinion.
I just recall what a mess this was on RP server.

[Derka-wyrmrest-accord (Derka)]

If everybody waits 3-4 weeks, they themselves will then be crowding the zones in 3-4 weeks.

What’s next, we draw straws and let people into Classic in waves? Just so some nervous nellies who take video games too seriously don’t have to deal with a bit of sharding?