The 40s and 50s bracket is the new place for 60s

Ive leveled a number of characters in BGs this expansion and I havent had a problem. They arent nearly as untouchable as old school twinks and I dont even agree that they should have run them off.

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Damn those rogues with fiery enchants and fishing hats! :sunglasses:

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Dude, the next bracket, with hunters in the nessingwary quest gear? Fugeddaboudit!

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I’ve levelled a number of characters in BGs this expansion to. It is very recent (within last two patches) that the number of 60s in the 40s and 51-59 bracket has exploded.

Especially the 4 x 60 and 1x 51-59 chars. You cant really compete against that with how 60s party sync unless they face a similar team makeup. Which has a very low chance of happening.

Its not so much that it has exploded, its that the number of actual 51-59s leveling in the BG has decreased. Further, the 51-59 bracket should have everyone using covenant abilities, the biggest advantage party sync gives, so its kind of a moot point.

This is just tunnel vision. Your team being OP has as much chance of happening as their team being OP in a random leveling BG. And theres a very good chance that neither team will be OP. The only thing that could skew those statistics is if the one constant is a detriment to the team.

The reason it has decreased I would fathom is because of the increase of 60 participation of that bracket. When I am only facing 60 5 man premades. I just log and go into another game unless I am also teamed with a 60 premade.

Your argument of my “tunnel vision” is completely muted by the fact of what faction dominates the 60s. If Alliance Dominate the 60 bracket at that time of day. The horde will party sync. And vice versa. I’ve seen it on both factions.

I realize you meant the “one constant” is an insult to myself and ill one up you on this. How is it if I’m the one whose defended more bases, assaulted more basses, returned more flags, capped more flags and been the flag grabber (as in get the flag before they cap and hover on their roof until time runs out) in last minute skirmishes a detriment? Honestly I want to know what evidence you have of that fact?

I realize that in this forum your go to argument is “lol bad”.
But come one bro. Least come up with something original if your going to try to insult me.
Happy to 1v1 you tho, lets make it interesting tho :wink:

How about, whatever class you pick Ill beat you on it <3 <3

This is quite telling. Not of your skill, but of your ability to make accurate observations about the problem.

Not only does party sync have a very low effect on the competetive ability at 40s and 50s brackets, but if a group of 5 60s can’t compete in the 60s bracket, they arent a threat to the 50s bracket.

No. I meant that to put the statistical improbability into perspective and to circle back to tunnel vision. It is easy to focus on losses and disadvantage. Especially these days. Negativity is like a pandemic. Even blizzard writing can only confidently manage victimhood stories. Time and time again, PvPers who give a damn have challenged the notion that any side has an advantage. At various times of day, the win loss ratio is almost always 50:50 ish. (Random unrated). That means that either A) you are super unlucky and you are being haunted by a super pro premade group in every BG. B) You are incorrect in your analysis and your loss rate isnt actually that bad. C) You are so bad you bring down every group you are in.

I’d bet dollars to donuts that its B.

A) My observations are correct. 5 Man premade made up of one 51-59 char, and 4 60s who have 23k hp Average with all abilities including covenant vs characters who may not have covenant and average about 18khp.

Explain that.

B) “Not only does party sync have a very low effect on the competetive ability” this is where I lol’d IRL. This quote alone clearly shows how misinformed you are. As above, having a 5k hp advantage including dmg and ability advantage = easier to win and more comptetive. The only time I have seen 60s be outdone is when people have paused there XP and geared themselves up and returned. Then the 60s leave. Its the exact reason they dont pvp in the 50 only bracket. They will lose and be pawned.

C) I agree with you it is easy to focus on the negativity side of things. That being said when you see one constant alongside that negativity (60 premade teams) you have a grand idea of the source. I go through the enemy team using BG target addon and see they have a 5 man premade 60 team. If we dont have the same its 90% not GG.

I even spoke to one the other day after he emoted on me in a 3v1. I asked him if hes going to continue to be toxic being a party syncer, he said he will s*** on me. I said okay ill do like him.

I invited 4 of my 60 friends, got into the same BG as his premade and we ended up GY camping them after first team battle. They ragequit.

I shouldnt have to resort to that to combat a bunch of most likely bad players.

Classy. And now you ask for forgiveness.
Karma is the sister of life.

No I’m literally stating that 60 who party sync need to have their scaling brought down to the average player in that battleground. Not a full geared 57-58 but a 55 player. It would do wonders for the fairness of the BG.

I should not have to invite all my 60 friends to combat a bunch of 60 premades who ragequit after they get deleted.

Guaranteed top of the list in Shadowlands. :upside_down_face:

129 is a good average. whats funny is for wins we still get bg crate gear rewards and even those have a higher ilvl than the template given.
the problem is gear rewards from level 48 to about level 54. everyone should be 110 ilvl at 50.

This show how much blizzard SUCKS and how stupid minded thay are. They cant get pvp balance so they allow a system to fight players at max lv? Good lord no wonder why the dumbass are losing so many players. They are idiots

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