Fing what???
What if i told you, people have the most fun by playing their class in the most poweful way.
Wow what a crazy concept eh? -_-
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Keep that tinfoil hat on Ralph. 
Just to turn this game into a homogenized overwatch with raids with 0 RPG elements because they obstruct his “waaaah I want to be optimal in all encounters” belief
Yeah he is taking away things from actual RPG fans for his own optimization obsession
There is an ENORMOUS CHOICE in there.
Get more gear aka wait for a week or two, but that is a choice tryhards like Preach refuse to accept because GOD FORBID THEY DELAY THAT BOSS KILL BY 1 WEEK D:
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I think what some are missing is he might not be after removing choices from players who want such, but as long as the choice to optimize based on content exists it will be what is expected/required,
I would like to be able to say "I am a Kyrian Paladin, I am strong in…, my weaknesses are…, now Venthyr Paladins are better then me in…, yet worse them me in… As such we are strong in certain areas but know we can team up and cover each other’s weaknesses.
I play expecting there will be fights/encounters I am NOT THE BEST FOR, that just means I might need to get a little CREATIVE to overcome them. If others want to optimize based on fight, all the more power to them but for some of us the fun is overcoming weak points and dominating in our strengths.
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I am not a big Preach fan but I find this hard to believe
I still can’t believe so many people are agreeing with the original post.
jesus
CE=/=World first.
Optimizing each person by them being tryhards who change to the most mathematically optimal build outside the cases where it is about utility or maybe movement talents, is about having more throughput/health to down the specific boss.
Gear increases throughput/health the same way, it is literally why most mythic guilds get the kills far after world first ends, so there’s 2 ways to get enough power to beat boss, either they play the most optimal builds and combs or they wait for more gear to reach that point.
Sadly the moment I told Preach that he simply wasnt capable of comprehending the idea that maybe you should wait for gear instead of obsessing over “I NEED DE KILL NOW MOM!!!”
By removing such limitations then choice stops mattering because there’s no weight, the fact that covenants are a meaningful choice is exactly because you cant just take it back with a tome like talents, same goes for conduits.
There is no choice if a tome can change it because there’s no real drawbacks when you can just poof, all my weaknsses in this encounter disappeared cuz i used a tome.
For a choice to matter it needs to have weight, and being unable to change it gives it that weight.
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agree, this post is FUBAR
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The fact Ralph has every single person disagreeing with him muted should be a pretty clear indication they he has an agenda.
He bragged about doing all the content in the game at his own pace without being a min-maxing try hard yet he’s admitted to simming constantly and after all these months of Nyalotha he’s 5/12M.
This is the champion you guys want to get behind? Jesus.
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I don’t care about the 1%. I only care about my game enjoyment and the enjoyment of those that i group or run with. This game is about having the best time you can, and anything that keeps you from that is nonsense. We need to stop over analyzing stuff and get back to what this game originally was. Something that everyone can enjoy, no matter who they were, and you might even make some new friends or strengthen current friendships out of it. I miss those times.
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If Blizzard wanted “meaningful choice” as they have said for Shadowlands they would limit your account to having only like 3 characters because it’s the most meaningful choice you can do in this game.
Can you explain how people min/maxing on their own terms has anything to do with how you enjoy the game? Like how does me running the best azerite traits and talents with BIS stats impact your gameplay at all?
How am i shaping your experience and impacting your fun?
Classic has proven the only reason people don’t remember Vanilla having min/maxing is because of the ease of access and you didn’t need a mathematics PHD to read ElitistJerks
God get over yourself LOL
I cannot get over the image of you standing on a soapbox trying to gather a crowd around you to start chanting BRING BACK FUN, BRING BACK FUN
Ralph, let me put it in simple terms:
Preach and his ilk: let us play as we want, with the ability to change based on fight
Anyone who knows the nature of the game: sure, it would be nice if you could play as you like. However. you getting that ability trickles down to the lower levels because people want to either be like you or clear the content you do and think the ONLY way to do such is to copy you all the way.
Preach+ilk: that is their choice, it should still not affect up to heroic raid or M+ up to ilvl cap
Nature of game people: Ideally YES, but realistically, not by a long shot, stop living in your ideal world and see what way might be the best for the game.
It doesn’t.
I isn’t. If you enjoy that then by all means, do what you do. I’m not here to stop you. All i’m saying is that people need to stop over analyzing things in game and just enjoy the game and let others enjoy it on their own terms.
You tell me to get over myself and then proceed to become horribly offended to the point of degrading me. Step down, i’m not your soapbox.
Followed by:
What actually is your point here? You don’t care about the 1% or what others do but people should stop over-analyzing things in a game when it’s 100% their chocie? Why are you trying to tell me what to do? Do you care about what others do or not?
If you actually didn’t care you wouldn’t post about how people need to get back to their roots. You said it yourself, me min/maxing doesn’t impact you and It’s what myself and many others find fun.
This thread is full of unbelievable hypocrites who don’t care about what others do (but also do care a lot and here’s why the 1% are evil).
For the Horde
I love how you completely glossed over the part where i said “If you enjoy that then by all means, do what you do.” Apparently, it’s horrible to tell people to enjoy the game on their terms. Remind me never to make that particular mistake again.
What do you think those people are doing? What experience do you have with simming and min maxing?
People who sim/min max want to be the strongest they can to help contribute to the raid. It’s something Ralph even admitted to doing, he min maxes. Isn’t he a little hypocritical making a speech like he did in the OP while doing min maxing and being extremely active in class discords asking for power of abilities and stuff from beta?
Apparently I don’t care about RPG elements because I want to min max. When the reason i got into this game is because of the story, I’ve read all the books and i follow the lore closely.
Saying what you’ve said in a thread which says things in the OP is hilariously hypocritical and you can’t even see it.
I tried it. After awhile i realized that all i needed was enough dps to make the sure the enemy died and me and the people i’m running with survived. As long as that happens, it’s a good run.