https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Malygos#cite_note-1
Heres malygos for example.
If you go to his references. Notice how none of them are pre 2013.
Now what year did wow come out.
What were the blue dragons before these novelezations
Well of eternity was published in 2004
Man I learned about the aspects and their domains when I started playing in TBCâŠ
This is so old
How does ranged tanking work when a vast majority of bosses just walk up to you and melee you? Outside of ranged tanking a few caster bosses in oddball fights like twin emps, you wouldnât really benefit from that.
Also you claim dracthyr are dragons and all of the big dragons have visage forms. Why would you want to get rid of that if they are dragons?
Thatâs what weâve been trying to explain to him.
Ranged tanks would only work for stationary turret bosses
Yeah. I mean you could have some ranged abilities but the bosses would still walk up to you and melee you, defeating the purpose.
Yup exactly.
He pretty much just wants to tank with cast bars.
Obsidian Sanctum
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Aug is dead because the support spec experiment failed (because you really needed more than just 1 class with a support spec).
Itâs probably going to get re-tooled in 11.1.7 or 11.2 to be a standard ranged DPS spec.
It probably wouldâve been a good idea to not use the word ârangedâ since everyone in the thread seems to have hyperfixated on it to instantly dumpster the idea of a caster tank, as if you wouldnât be able to just keep casting in melee range. Paladin is basically already a ârangedâ tank but nobody bats an eye.
Caster tank is exactly what I hoped weâd get when an incoming third spec was announced, because I think thereâs still a lot of interesting things they could do with empower spells. That and Iâd hoped fire breath would get an upgrade from that lame sneeze it is now to something like Deathwingâs breath in HotS.
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People who complain about aug and seem excited for it being horrible are always the hardstuck 2.5kIo only inviting meta 3kIO peeps to their +7s.
Aug was only as good as those around it and was a hard class to use correctly due to needing to properly use your utility.
Visage form is just fan fic garbage.
Those of us that can enjoy monster races are completely fine with dracthyr but they know making their new race a monster race would have the elfpissersinan uproar and low behold. They just cry they want the dracthyr model abandoned and only visage form to exist
With this logic no ranged characters should ever exist because the enemy just walks up to you and melees you.
Yall are so confused on the pros and cons when weâve had range tanks before and SoD currently has a caster tank as well.
It truthfully isnât that difficult to wrap your brain around⊠evoker is literally a short ranged caster anyways that can cast whole moving. Thatâs the perfect candidate for a caster tank
Give tank to someone who needs it, like Rogue. A 4th spec at that.
Aug should just get another unique DPS spec. It has a healer spec so it can survive periods of meh-ness. Rogue has to suffer all around.
Thereâs a lot of potential, dragon magic is diverse, empowered spells could be great to really double down for a caster tank.
Augmentation going back to augment yourself. Eruption is a great tank ability, obsidian scales exist, breath of eons fits.
Class can be focused around keeping your scales high and the more scales you have means the more upfront damage you mitigate, also a certain threshold of scales allows you to avoid spell push back.
Thereâs tons of potential that would fit draconicaÄșly and retail is void of a caster tank, mail tank
I wasnât aware that dragons in WoW using visage forms within the actual game was fan fic garbage. You should let Blizzard know.
The rest of that claim is just silly.
Iâm sorry, but thatâs a ridiculous claim. Do you just pretend that enemy spell casters exist? Really? Every single mob walks up to melee you? I wasnât aware of that.
But putting your crazy logic aside, there are not many raid bosses that are actually casters, or at least not pure casters. There are a few, but definitely a minority.
And yes, We have had ranged tanks before on gimmick fights. How many raid and dungeon fights have been designed to have ranged tanks? A few. Now take that and compare that to the amount of every single raid and dungeon bosses that weâve had over the 20 years. Itâs clear that ranged tanks have only been part of a few gimmick fights and thatâs it.
Iâm sorry, but some of the examples that youâre reaching for just donât work.
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Retail WoW should never implement anything from SoD. SoD is a trash meme mode.
Dragons have an excuse for visage form.
Dracthyr are already half dragon half mortal they donât need a visage form for any reason.
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Rogue is like the antithesis of a tank, itâd be like asking for a warrior to heal.
It is however, prime material for a ranged spec. Itâs baffling that theyâve got 3 flavors of rogue and none of them use a bow.
They arenât fanfic but Dracthyr visages both completely miss the point of dragons having a visage in the first place, and donât have the full range of options a regular dragonâs visage does. Which is ultimately no better than lame fanfic.
Dragons use them to blend in or otherwise interact with mortal races in a way that doesnât intimidate them(because talking to a scaled skyscraper would make plenty of people soil themselves). Dracthyr are already sized appropriately to interact with small races, so the only thing left is that itâs for blending in for espionage(they are supposed to be perfect soldiers after all). But those repulsive scale patterns and visible horns their visages have completely throw that out the window. So their visages serve absolutely no purpose, and wasted dev time that shouldâve been spent making their true forms better. cough cough functional transmog cough cough
The only correct options for Dracthyr visages would be to either not have them at all, or to have every race as an option with eyes being the only potentially visible draconic feature. And Blizzard somehow chose neither.