There are so many threads talking about how there is a serious lack of tanks this season. There are many tanks not pushing keys this season. This is from a clear lack of balancing of tanks this season. 5/6 of the tanks are struggling to survive and/or maintain threat in keys. This is leading to a serious decline of tanks wanting to play. This by no means is to say blizzard should nerf Brewmaster, but a call for “significant” buffs for the other tanks.. not the laughable ones that came out this week.
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I’ll try some more m0’s but trying to do mythic+ on a blood dk just sounds miserable
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Ran a saron 2 on my DK undergeared slightly, it wasnt THAT bad personally
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Women picked the Bear, the Bear got neutered, forest fires on the rise.
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M2’s are where I want to be for that heroic vault but I hate not getting drops after every boss
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This isn’t relevant until much higher keys than the vast, vast majority of content the playerbase will ever touch. People are vastly over exaggerating how squishy tanks are, particularly in the key ranges that people actually run. I think this rhetoric does much more harm than any actual balancing.
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You’re right that it depends on what you’re doing. If you are doing keys under 10s then all tanks can do the content without much issues, except for maybe bears cause they can’t hold threat to save their life.. but going above 10s and especially above 12s, the keys are miserable trying to survive. This rhetoric is to help get needed balancing done so that there isn’t a serious lack of tanks for higher keys
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Yeah, the BDK buffs are nowhere to be felt. If they released these changes without telling anyone, no one would know BDK got buffed. This spec could get a 20% dmg taken reduction buff and it would still be a joke of a spec. Down bad for a giant rework. Not like a brewmaster or prot war rework, more like a survival hunter level of rework.
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It’s not THAT bad, you get decent money for a run at least.
They really aren’t, though. Survivability doesn’t become a big issue until you’re into like 16s.
If you’re struggling just to survive in the 10-12 range as a ppal it is genuinely a skill issue.
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I make like 100kgold doing stuff on other characters. Mythic+ gold has always been underwhelming. Wish they would buff it at least for tanks
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Prot pally is feeling very much the same. The “buffs” were so bad and you can’t even notice them. They really need a flat damage reduction buff or armor buff. BDK is one of the tanks I don’t play, but from what I’ve seen they are on the same boat where they really need a flat armor buff.
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I’m struggling hard on prot pal. Might go light smith for more tankiness
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You should be going lightsmith in M+ regardless. If you’re still struggling with survivability, run sentinel. Anyone telling you to go Templar in mid to high keys is giving you bad advice.
(I’d strongly suggest going sentinel either way until you’re feeling more comfortable with the spec. You’ll get tons of uptime.)
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I don’t know about protection pal, but guardian feels squishier this season than it’s ever been. I was getting trucked in the 13 seat I tried the other night. Felt awful.
At least part of that is needing to thread a needle between enough iron fur and enough raze to not get threat ripped. Because bear threat is dumpster tier right now, and the most recent change did nothing to address that.
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Yeah, DK and prot pallies are getting slapped around bad, it’s been DK’s main problem for years, the spec has had balancing issues in every which way because of that, it’s unsustainable. Clearly blizzard does not want to move away from mega burst in M+, the only way to reasonably deal with that is to have good dmg reduction. Taking giant hits and pretending healing this dmg back is actual mitigation is just bad design and a lack of understanding of the game.
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Prot pally is in a terrible spot. Prot pally has always been my favorite tank to play, but I also play a prot warrior, guardian druid and veng dh and pally is by far the squishiest of out the 4. Light Smith will help a little, but it’s not going to make a significant change, just a heads up
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Ok I guess I could sit my paladin and play one of the others. We still have like 5 months of this season most likely
If one tank can do 20s the others can do 19s, it’s been that way since m+ started, one tank always rises to the top (maybe 1 season as exception), balance has nothing to do with a lack of tanks. General pop needs to try not being a knob in runs, the amount of snark I see even in "relaxed/chill” runs when the slightest thing goes wrong is astounding.
Tldr other players are the problem, not balance
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I’ve pushed higher keys for the past 5 years on a prot pally. Prot is way weaker then it’s been in years. Yes you can survive 12s and 13s but you have to work much harder then you’ve ever had to in the past. Have you played prot is previous season? Cause they class feels terrible right now
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