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I really doubt anyone cared about them beyond being loot piñatas. Though Blackfuse had some hella fascinating raid mechanics, so he was at least memorable for that. Regardless, you know very well that players like that lvl 10 NE alt will only really find satisfaction if the whole Horde Faction is wiped out (and will complain about how unfair it is that its not).
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Not really, if you read my comment you’d know that killing Sylvanas and getting their lands back + their people out of the msw would already be enough, but as things stand, none of these 3 things could come true.
If justice was to achieve on the Horde alone, they’d have to completely dismantle it and make them unable to ever hurt any innocents again with the intention to make them suffer in the maw (really blizz?)
Isn’t there something datamined where Nathanos gets sent to the maw to meet with Sylvanas?
Literally named Garrosh supporters in Northern Barrens:
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Kor'kron_Commander
If there had been world quests similar, and voice over saying something as simple as “This one operated the catapults!” “This mage lit the volleys!” “This shaman fueled the fires!” people would have been satisfied with killing them.
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What you actually said 
So, wanna try again?
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No there is not.
We’re still waiting to see the cutscene for Nathanos’ death.
Honestly, that guy has been failing up a storm recently. I kind of wonder how long its going to be before she drops him like she does with all her worthless tools. You might actually get a final kill on that dick, even if its not permanent with the first round.
As for Sylvanas, I hope you get her. Just to put an end to her nonsense if nothing else. Tired of her being everywhere in the story. Also, I assume you guys got your damned lands back, there is nothing to indicate that you didn’t. I would guess that Tyrande would be making some form of stink about it if you didn’t at least get Ashenvale back in Shadows Rising. You get Darkshore back, you’re based out of Hyjal, odds are pretty damned good you have the zone in between back. Plus, isn’t getting the souls out of the Maw like a central pivot point for the Shadowlands story? I would assume we succeed.
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Is this supposed to drop with the Prepatch? Or part of the prepatch?
He’s a world boss in the pre-expansion event, yeah, which hasn’t been made available yet.
Interesting. Well, if nothing else I’ll be glad to put him down. I gave him far more benefit of the doubt than he clearly was deserving of back when I thought “maybe” he could become more than just a self-insert hugging Danuser’s waifu, but since he’s not and I’m still putting up with his sass all over Zandalar … it’ll be nice to kill him. Onward to Voss development!
Even if its only temporary. I suspect he’ll pop again at some point in the lands of the dead. But, I hope his repeated failures eventually lets us kill him for good; after Sylvanas abandons with worthless butt.
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The only way to at least partially fix this story is to revisit its origins in Silithus. Sure Sylvanas wanted to see the world burn, but Saurfang didn’t. He wasn’t given nearly enough motivation to participate and plan WoT, given his background and presentation throughout the games history. His character was basically thrown under a bus first to push Sylvanas’s arc, and then Anduin’s arc.
Then let me rephrase it to Horde “soldier”. Even though the Horde DOES want the deaths (and for some reason torture) of every single Alliance member, regardless of being civilian or soldier.
But Nathanos death means that he goes right to Sylvanas’ tower.
I honestly don’t think anyone will get her at this point. Given how defensive some of the writers are of her and her actions, I can almost assure that Shadowlands is going to end in favour of Sylvanas.
I don’t know about that, the writers often conveniently leave out important plot threads, or they just forget about them.
Often Alliance characters are also very very stupid and forgetful.
Are there actually confirmations that the civilian population of the Night Elves went to Hyjal? And that it’s free of Horde presence and the twilight hammer?
As for this, I don’t know how you hide spoilers here, but maybe this works:
In the Shadowlands questline, we actually kill a good chunk of Night Elf souls in the maw which already ruins the possibility of having all innocent souls saved.
Not really. He was given plenty of ammunition to believe the Alliance would attack the Horde. Because they already kind of were. The attack on Sylvanas in Stormheim should have ended and peace treaty with the Horde right then and there; but the attack on Bilgewater civilians in Silithus only added to that. By all indications the Alliance was already attacking the Horde, its just that none of the instances of Alliance aggression proceeding the WoT were allowed to really count. Outside of a little bit of SH due to Anduin’s lack of reaction.
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Head canon.
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I know you are posting on a classic character, but you should give BfA a try if you want to argue about its story…
Wait what? Why are we doing this?
Yeah, my main. Because I don’t hide.
You may claim that Sylvanas wanted to kill everyone (Horde and Alliance or otherwise) but you’ll be hard pressed to find ANYTHING in the story that says the Horde as a whole wants to kill and torture all Alliance military and civilian.
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Ultimately Saurfang’s true motivations were the same as many requests Horde players have made, and it’s in the very title of his perspective on the events: A Good War. More than anything else, more than all the words Sylvanas was trying to feed him, Saurfang wanted to fight a war without corruption or super weapons. Saurfang wanted to win by the Horde’s own merits, through strategy and soldiers so he could say he finally won something with honor. Or died with honor.
Blizzard just had Sylvanas take that away from both Saurfang and the Horde players is all.
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Because they transform into an amalgam that we have to kill, Tyrande mentions obliteration as a better fate for them and so we kill them.
They also don't come out of it after we kill it. So well there's that
Well, that makes sense, right? As payment for the loss of an Alliance character the player knew the name of, the only way the Alliance player can even hope to be satisfied by killing a Horde character THEY know the name of. And since Alliance never interact with Horde characters, you have to go pretty far up the list to find a Horde character that the Alliance player has even heard of.
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