I’ve given my evidence and they support my claims. The game is in a severe decline and has been for some time. Some servers may not be as bad as others but I think if you sample servers you’ll find that, more often than not, it’s difficult to get groups for content. No one can provide more evidence than that, except for Blizzard.
Sometimes we have to make judgements based on less information than we’d like. That’s life.
And sometimes we have to admit that the data is insufficient to make judgements. At this point the only one who has enough data is blizzard. All of us at some point or another is guilty of confirmation bias.
It won’t be. Classic is going to be a live and well as speed running guilds look to optimize their rosters for official records. Some casual guilds will still be around as well. But in general it will die off, and it should because it’s simply not a good game after you’ve done the raid a few times.
I think BC will kill classic except for a few servers. BC was better in every aspect, and personally introduced my favorite aspect of the game in Arenas. Balance in BC wasnt the worst either, not as bad as vanilla.
Right now its insane to say its dead though because Org lags 24/7 and theres a full screen full of people, I seen multiple horde and alliance guilds raiding every time I go raid, CH is always packed still. I play on whitemane.
I really don’t understand why there is so much speculation on this issue. If TBC is launched then the gates will open ( like they did before) on our classic servers and they change the name to The Classic Burning Crusade or whatever they want. Any other rendition of how this plays out is an off chance.
I think Blizzard’s best option would be to force everyone to start at level 1. Then we can relive the “server firsts”, etc. I know I’m going to TBC the day it’s available. I’m only on Classic because it’s better than BfA.
THIS IS A NEW AND EXCITING THOUGHT THAT 100% DESERVED ITS OWN UNIQUE THREAD!
/sarcasm
because CRZ is the devil?
My 2 thoughts:
(1) Blizzard should not create TBC.
(2) Players are asking for different games, and calling them all “TBC”. Blizzard can’t do that. They have to pick 1 game and do it.
So any “TBC” that Blizzard creates will be rejected by a lot of players. They’ll say “That’s not TBC! That’s not what we asked for!” And players will say that, not matter what Blizzzard creates.
You pointed out one issue: transferring Classic characters. There are a bunch of other issues, where players disagree about “what we are asking for”.
To put it in retail terms its kinda like when WoW went from 12+ million subs to 10 million subs from Wrath to Cata. You seem to be suggesting its more like WoD when it went from 10 to 5 almost overnight and even the 5 remaining couldnt be bothered to log in as often.
Its taken a hit for sure but its nowhere near dead and in severe decline. Plus a lot of people were tourists from retail during the usual content drought but now that amazing expansion aka shadowlands is on the horizon and people want to get on test realms and figure out how to speed run through that expac.
Pls do explain.
-more people to group with
-dont need to rely on your guild that much
-option to play with friends who reroll on different server
-more choices to raid with
What are thr bad points for crz again?
Are you seriously asking this?
Where have you been for like, the past several years of retail complaints about CRZ issues?
If ur going to tell me how it ruins the economy, save it. Bots n Chinese farmers already do it, and it has a worse impact.
If ur talking about layering abuse to get certain rare npcs, nodes etc, there can always be a hotfix so npcs can be realm specific.
CRZ is the main reason I stopped playing retail (I mean I tried to deal with it but CRZ is literally everywhere - I couldn’t do it anymore). It totally takes a community away from the game (server community and otherwise) and makes it so that almost everyone you play with is the equivalent of an NPC.
The two worst things about it IMO are looking LFR (I was around when this came and it DESTROYED more casual guilds, killing wow communities even further) and having people in every zone including your capital city be from whatever server imaginable.
I know we have it now in BGs and that’s bad enough.
Server mergers aren’t great, but server mergers would be way better than this.
The way I see it, being forced to be put with the same community is no good either. On Herod, the community is extremely toxic, and people force each other to play the game by their standards. Too much loot councils that are corrupt and not enough guilds with a fair system in place.
One could argue cross-realm would remove power from these toxic people and return in to the hands of the player so they no longer have to conform with server norms and rules they do not like and are anti-ethical to the spirit of wow classic.
lmao this guy is trolling
Retail is that way 
Megaservers are always going to feel cold and toxic unless you rolled with a bunch of your own friends.
If you want to escape the toxicity of servers like Herod and Faerlina you don’t have to wait for cross realm anything you can just server transfer. Blizzard has still given you that option.
I’m trolling? Who made you the forum poilice?
I think Retail suits you better
you’re complaining about an imagined problem , if TBC makes classic serve die its because the majority of people want to play TBC and not stay with you in vanilla. that’s your problem not theirs. the people that want vanilla will be fine as is.
There is no potentially “splitting” the community, the people who are here for classic are here for classic and the people who want TBC and so on weren’t going to stick around at the end of Naxx anyways, so really the “issue” was inevitable.
That includes me, I love the older style of WoW, but I have no intention of playing dried out content at the end of Naxx, I rather keep riding that nostalgia trip until end of wrath and pray they do a spin off.