TBC was always hard for some people and that's normal

if no one can vouch for you, i will assume you have no idea what you are talking about and continue to say what i believe to be true while you keep buying those 58 boosts

Maybe they can, but don’t want to?

I don’t blame them…

Like you…

They probably don’t like what I have to say.

I have…

Not that I needed them anyways…

I had max-level characters before the boosts were offered. I only bought a couple to speed up gold farming. I don’t use them for any kind of content outside of that.

Got a little quiet now did we?

I’ll use your own computer against you…

I see different names from posters as they reply to me; likely their alts.

You probably only see one name pop out when I reply to you or anyone…

Mine.

That’s shows that I’ve used the same name overall for years.

No the shorter phases are not in these forums, they’re busy in-game.

looks like no one can vouch for you, sad. Unfortunately, i don’t argue with stupid so enjoy looking like a moron with no one to back you up on your reliable statements

on the first release of tbc less than 10% of players advanced past t4

link to where you found the information please?

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You are still getting post nerf raids no matter how hard you cry.

people wlll still be getting pre nerf heroics no matter how hard they try n cry

Do you have anything else interesting to say or just gonna jump from post to post saying cry harder?

Well, currently, in P1, they play 1 hr a week. In P2 they will play about 3 hrs a week.

I think that after 20 years its time to let the people who suck at the game finally see the content….classic+ will be announced soon, this may be some people’s chance to finally have a good time with friends who simply arent good at the game and see some fights they never saw before. you can always challenge yourself and your guild in new ways, but people who suck just arent going to magically get better after 20 years, just relax and enjoy the ride. quit gatekeeping the newbs and geriatrics.

This phase was not shorter.

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The game is 20 yrs old, it’s easy and solved content, which is why we need to nerf it to the ground (?)

Heey I’m on your side. It should be hard, but not forbiddingly so, I am one of the geriatrics :wink: I was older alerady when Vanilla launched, playing with my sons :wink:

Overcoming challenging - but not impossible - challenges is the most fun part.
I do relax and enjoy, I’m still not max level and I would like to tank for a crappy, but patient geriatric group all the way!

Depends on what you compare to. I compare - as always - to OG TBC, not the 2019 Classic edition.

Thats a pretty silly comparison.

Well Magisterkhan originally said that

Original - not Classic - and this is what my reply was concerning. Not your idea of what’s silly and what’s not.

Original TBC also launched with Kara, Mag,Gruul,SSC,Tk and Hyjal open on launch.

So yeah its pretty damn stupid.

Based on what evidence?
They literally aren’t playing alts, working on proffs, playing arena or anything? Really?

The person you are responding to is larping as someone who understands the game but they don’t. We have asked this person multiple times to share his toon after discussions like this where they are talking like they don’t even play the game and they won’t.

They have no idea what they are talking about. Obviously someone who is min/maxing the game to it’s limits is spending an unhealthy amount of time in this game they aren’t raid logging anyone who knows anything about this game knows this lol.

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I don’t think TBC was or is necessarily hard. Sure some pre-nerf stuff was pretty badly tuned but still, that’s game design bumbs not intended difficulty.

I think TBC was the last version of the game, for a while, that had lots of hoops to jump through. Half of which are soft locked behind the gold sink of flying.

Example:
Wanna get the key for Kara? need flying for Arc, which if you don’t have the key for Arc, it also requires the same gold sink. Can def take the wind from someone’s sails. The Attunement changes in the current iteration help this out greatly.

Wrath had less hoops, Cata had some reasonable ones, etc.