TBC pre-patch, let us level our shamans / paladins

Sure… thing.

I agree. The fictional, magical, perfect game “TBC” should have a pre-patch.

And unicorns. Don’t forget the unicorns.

As much as I would hate to start over, logically speaking this makes the most sense.

The hacking and botting has been out of control. They need to find fixes for those things FIRST, and then launch a fresh TBC.

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Blizzard didn’t create a game for you. That’s not why Classic exists - it doesn’t exist as “how to get to tbc”.

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BC should let you buy level 70 boost and gold so it shouldn’t matter. Since they made no promises for TBC don’t need to worry about no changes. #allthechanges

No that is not the “ONLY” way they could do that

They can simply make an exact copy of every classic character, or even every server fully intact. And then just split the game into two versions exactly how the ptr works now

There is zero reason why they would need to delete your classic character from classic servers to progress to tbc with that same character

Big brain here

Transfer servers, Fresh servers.

Both of them. At the same time. Wow.

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Not so many as you might think.

As much as Classic die-hards would tell you, the truth is most of us want to get to TBC or Wrath.

The fact that Vanilla / Classic has so many blindingly obvious, severe problems is lost on people like yourself, no offense.

You misunderstood what I wrote.

The only way for them to wipe what you did with your character would be to actually delete it.

People are saying fresh TBC servers would get rid of the progress they made in Classic which doesn’t make sense since all the progress you made would actually still be there on the Classic servers.

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I mean im not the one thats looking to hamper the future moving to TBC Wrath and wherever blizzard takes this train. I dont want TBC museum piece like the vanilla people even the small number that they may be. The issue for blizzard is they told them they would do so. So if the number is enough to keep a Vanilla server then why shouldnt they get there thing? It wont effect what i want to do.

I am not sure your leveling of reading comprehension though it would seem low considering that if you have gone to just about any TBC thread you can see my opinion is to move forward and to give the people that want to sit in classic what they want.

Progressing servers will bring us back to square one of why Vanilla Classic servers were created. The Classic Vanilla servers should not progress into TBC servers.

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Hard pass. If you want to level 1-60 play classic. No expansion in the history of wow has forced you to start back at level 1.

I’ve posted this before, but what they should do is
have servers open for fresh character only for 1 month, capped at 60. After that one month of fresh only they put in all the pre-patch events, open the transfer/copy window. The pre-patch lasts roughly a month. Once the dark portal opens transfers/copies window closes and you have to start fresh.

This give players who want to start fresh 2 months to hit 60 before the dark portal opens, and gives players bringing their classic characters a legit pre-patch period, which would be the most authentic experience. The reason a window is important is so players cant just farm gold/mats in classic and transfer it BC whenever they want. If you miss the transfer/copy window you have no choice but to start at level 1

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You’re high if you think people will not want their mounts, titles, Naxx gear etc. to use while leveling in TBC, having their gold ready to purchase flying as soon as they cap etc. Especially on PvP servers where a lot of new prey, excuse me, players who skipped Classic will be rejoining for TBC.

This is why they should have transfers/copies instead of progressing servers.

This is the same plan that i think they should use as well. Minor change would make would be to allow one server to be Fresh No Transfer but thats me. Sold planning friend.

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Which has problems of its own - guilds breaking up, names not being reserved, Classic servers becoming ghost towns as most of the population transfers to TBC etc.

I think what they will do is progress most servers and give folks the option to copy backwards to a handful of evergreen Classic ones. Whether those Classic servers stay in a pristine Phase 6 state indefinitely, or reset so people can go through the Phases again, remains to be seen.

As an FYI server transfers and 25 man guilds as well as re rolling are going to kill guilds. This was the reality of what STARTED in TBC as people started to move around to join better guilds that were progressing in SSC TK BT Hyjal and Sunwell.

I like how you created the same problem in reverse because its not your preferred outcome.

You have a point with guilds, but I think it’s safe to assume most guilds will just transfer to the same server. The only issue in my guild is a lot of us want to be on a pve server for BC. As for names, in my plan you could reserve a name in the fresh only period, then delete the character before you transfer/copy. And classic servers will become ghost towns regardless. A vast majority of us are gunna move on to BC. The remaining classic only players will congregate on 1-3 servers.

But you’re right, an option to transfer back to classic only realms would work too.

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I think the prospect of being forced to reroll will turn a lot of players off. I already leveled my lock 1-60, why would I want to do it again? For anyone who’s playing the character they intend to play in BC leveling 1-60 is a just a waste of time, and for what purpose, so players can find deadmines groups again?

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I do think that a majority of people will end up moving forward with the characters they have. At the same time i think that guilds and players will face the reality of 25 man raiding in TBC.

I dont want people to underestimate the fact that we are cutting 15 people from every raid team and people are swapping to Pallies and shammies or just race changing (assuming they dont allowed paid changes at the start). You are looking at a shift of a little less than half the total raiding population to be cut from raids and have to go either find or create new groups. That or the doubling of raid teams and logistics to manage them