How would it not be a destructive change? We know the impact it has in retail, especially in organized groups. And I’d rather get nothing rather than a small chunk of change equivalent to a few silvers or even coppers in Classic/TBC.
Classes are brought for the utility they bring, not to soak up class-specific loot. This goes doubly for TBC.
no to personal loot. It is not part of the TBC game systems. TBC is perfectly fine without personal loot.
so you received gold that gold buyers spent, then used it for yourself. You are laundering RMT gold, and dont see any problem with it because you benefited.
And 1-1.5k payout means 40-60k gold was spent in those raids. Dont pretend you dont know where thats coming from.
If blizzard were to crack down on the gold buyers… it would deter heavily the RMT.
From previous GDKPs payout? do the mats.
only poeple who buy gold would spend 8k to 10k on items and be all willy nilly and go back following week and repeat.
If everyone would spent 8-10k per item on every items, yeah that would be shady but most items goes for less than 2k which is close to the payout.
My dude…there are buyers in almost every run that drop 5k+ without blinking on maybe 2 items. Sure there are legit buyers who have farmed the gold. Most of the gold run through gdkp is bought. Most of the payout is bought. Most of the gold you likely spent on T3 was bought before it hit your hands if you were just using GDKP payouts.
I understand that but you guys will keep using these arguments even with a 100g payout, from 320k from original post to my 2k and you guys still going on like thick heads. People like GDKPs because you make gold raiding and that annoys a lot of people, especially people in guild with questionable loot council.
Like I said I know this system promote gold buying, my point is that it’s not required and in a world where there’s no gold buyers at all, GDKP is still a very good loot system, only the payout would change.
agreed. gdkp wouldnt be bad IF blizzard were to actually dare i say monitor its game and crack down on gold buyers. But that would be banning their subs, which is less money for them so they wont, and gdkp cant be enforced on their end. So technically there is no solution unless blizzard would take the high road and monitor its own game.
But news flash… this blizzard is a far cry from the blizzard that made Vanilla/ TBC.
no, it really doesn’t.
Shadowlands is that way ----------->
Ya i dont see how, or even think that they should do anything directly to GDKP.
To each his own with loot systems. Personally if your guild does the legwork before the next tier drops you should have an idea of what gear you are going to get and in what order.
They need to crack down hard on the shameless selfish fools who buy gold. Honestly though i think its more a symptom of how retail has evolved over the years. People are used to paying for better QoL in WoW. Classic has very few QoL features so people just started making ways around it and then paying for it.
No one would care if you were making 1/10th the gold btw. Litterally no one says “You get paid to raid! How unfair!” Most people agree that’s kind of cool, and then you start seeing how much things are going for, and start to ask things like…
“You made HOW much?” “Who the fook pays 6k for strikers mark??” “Wait that queraji ripper sold for WHAT?” and then you realize after a few runs its the same gold buyers in every run with a couple new gold buyers roatating in and like 2-3 legit buyers. Like one item gets sold for a “normal” amount you could believe someone farmed and was willing to spend.
You can defend the loot system all you want, and I’ll agree there is nothing wrong with the idea of GDKP. However this is reality.
I’m guessing the only gold you use is farmed from mobs and vendor items? cause if you sell ANYTHING in the game to another player your just as much to blame as you say gdkp’ers are. gdkp has 0 impact on inflation because it’s just changing hands, not entering the game, and the VAST majority of people in them don’t buy gold.
You have a problem with people spending 5k on items, when that’s only a few weeks worth of payouts. How often do people in guilded raids go weeks without a piece of loot? or even months. It’s just how gdkp works, the longer you go without winning a piece of loot, the more gold you have to spend on the next drop you want. Of course you can farm or buy gold outside the run, but most of the time it’s just going around in circles.
If they just ban botters, gold sellers and buyers it wouldn’t be an issue. Banning gdkp doesn’t fix anything. There are plenty of gdkps where people don’t buy gold or bot.
And in reality it’s blizzards job to crack down on the people breaking the rules and not the many people doing gdkps who aren’t breaking the rules. Ban the people botting and buying gold and not the people spending gold they made from farming herbs.
Sure. Why not.
Personal Loot is the worst loot system to ever be put in the game.
You idiots keep thinking these are normal amounts of gold.
The only reason GDKP is profitable enough to make 5k+ “in a couple payouts” is if dumbdumbs are buying gold to begin with. If you think these payouts being the size they are isnt due to inflation from gold buying you are just being dishonest with yourself. Obviously the real problem is the buyers/sellers in our game, but dont pretend GDKP doesnt encourage gold buying.
edit - Again to be clear I’m fine with GDKP. I have even went to atleast 3 or so of them myself, world buffed and all and took my share of the gold. Hypocritical, maybe. Informative? Yes. You can easily see how shameless some people are.