I think, all these complainers,. just want an easy route. How many people threatened to not play classic wow if this or that didnt or did happen… Did they really unsub?
Vanilla,TBC and WRATH were the golden age of WOW( many think this)
Classic was rushed so fast, in 1 year essentially everything was released( if naxx releases december or this year2020).
I dont Even have a 60 yet. This is what people forget HOW FAST IT GOT RUSHED. TBC is the GLORY of the GAME IMO, and I for one do not want it rushed.
As someone who is anti-Fresh (not for the launch of a different game, of course), I understand where they’re coming from. It has nothing to do with “easy mode” but our attachments to our characters/progress. I would hate to lose my Classic Characters in the name of “Fresh Classic Servers”.
I’m anti-transfering characters between two different games. I want them to be separate from each other, as much as possible. Which is why I think a one-time Classic Server data copy & paste upon the release of BC (and the old Classic Server host becomes BC) is the best option. But, I’m still prepared for a Fresh BC Server with no Character Copies. I have a sinking feeling, however Blizz is going to go with a BC Server option and allow for Character Copies. They want that sweet $$$$$
I understand that part. I meant just the people that whine “ill quit” if this or that happens. I would be ok with a character copy 2-3 weeks in( with no gold). Give people a chance to level. But that probably wont happen.
Most likely everyone here has played many games and all of us eventually decided to quit. There’s a limit to the number of times a person will play a game from the beginning before they put it aside. For some it might be 1 time for others a dozen but we all have decided to put some games aside after playing them from the beginning some number of times. That’s where I’m at with wow. I’m not going to run all my 60’s through this game again just to play BC, again. Since I did it with 4 characters already when it went live 15 years ago.
People paying subs are not going to want that.
People that do not want to play TBC dont want it
People that want to play both do not want it.
And i would bet that most people who want to move on the TBC have about 0 interest in screwing up classic for anyone not interested, just like they would not want wrath to come along later and wipe them out, as not everyone who will play TBC has any interest in wrath.
They are not different games, they are the same game, TBC was an expansion, a continuation.
ALL The vanilla people were there.
For what logical reason?
For nothing else, that would be highly unauthentic.
You seem to be pro for an idea guaranteed to make the largest amount of unhappy people, unhappy people do not continue to subscribe.
Is that what you want?
This is an MMO, it is not about you, it is about them, all of them, and what will work for the widest majority.
There is my preferred option, options that are enough that I would keep playing, and options that I’m not interested in playing. First off you say “your 60” as if everyone has just one 60 or just 1 they care about. My main is a holy priest. it’s my favorite character. I leveled her holy. But I hate to farm with her. I leveled up a hunter just a little higher then her to farm for her. I’m not going to transfer over my priest and then level up a hunter from level 1. I’ll quit if I have to do that. I don’t care too much if they limit the amount of gold or items I can bring or if they reset the AH, though others might feel differently. But if I can’t transfer at least all my 60’s I’m done with the game.
What ever blizzard decides to do the problem they have to solve is what option will cause the most number of people to continue to pay for a monthly subscription.
If that were the case, everyone back in TBC would’ve been required to start at level 1, and we all know that simply did not happen. Vanilla servers progressed directly into TBC servers, with all characters, economies, guilds, and progression intact. We don’t start back at level 1 each time a new expansion hits, and we’re on expansion# 7 now.
Cloning/backing up data and patching would occur in a test environment prior to being deployed in Production. The backed up Classic server data would be cloned and serve as the basis for the new TBC realm, pre-patch. The fact that the following exists as an option as presented in the survey confirms my statements:
“Continue playing my current Classic character on my existing server as it progresses to the Burning Crusade expansion, with the option to transfer to a Classic server that will never progress past level 60.”
Key word here is “progresses.” So it’s very possible and easy to do. The question isn’t IF it’s possible. The question is DO they want to do that?
There’s no reason not to let people take the 60s they done worked up to 70. If others didn’t play classic and level during all this time, then that’s not our fault. You’ll have had over a year to get characters to 60. Even if you wait until they officially announce it (which they more or less already did with survey), you’ll still have many months to start before the portal opens.
That said, there will still be plenty of rerolls anyway, so it’s not like the low levels will be dead. They will be full of goats and elves; but far from dead. Plenty of people will want to switch classes/races, which already means starting over from level 1.
No idea. It couldn’t be more obvious that Blizzard would never do the dumb things you see suggested around here. Furthermore, they already did that with retail, making me wonder why they don’t just go over there. If you want a XP boost, retail is literally advertising 100% bonus on the launcher right now. But I actually saw threads asking for that boost to be ported over here. /facepalm
You’re misunderstanding what that statement means. The Classic Server Data (as in everyone’s characters, progress, guilds, etc.) gets cloned (one-time, only upon the release of TBC) over to a new server host. That new server host is the new “Classic Server” option. Meanwhile, the old Classic Server progresses over to BC:
I agree. I don’t want BC overriding Classic, and Blizz doesn’t give us our Classic option.
I plan to play both, but I re-explained what I meant.
And my suggestion isn’t trying to screw over any Classic players. I suggest you re-read what I’m actually saying.
Agreed.
OK, point me, where in Classic, I can create a Blood Elf/Draenei? How do I pick up Jewelcrafting? Where are the Guild Banks? I believe those are BC exclusive.
Because they are separate games. You point where I can copy our Classic characters over to Retail. I’ll wait.
I don’t think you fully grasp what I’m actually saying.
Because BC overrode Vanilla, and Vanilla ceased to exist.
Because the old games no longer exist.
I know which is why I suggested it.
At the cost of eliminating the prior style/mechanics, of what the game used to be. We all know Retail and Classic are two different games. It’s the same with BC. This is where a lot of people are going to disagree with me on. I don’t know much about the Private Server community, but I am curious if they allowed Character Copies from Classic Private Servers over to the BC Private Servers.
I don’t doubt this. Doesn’t mean, to your use words:
I never said it was impossible. I consider all options:
I’d much prefer option 5. If not then option 3. But I think they’re gonna go with option 4 to milk more money out of their customers.
Fortunately, Blizzard is not as dumb as some of the folks on this forum. The survey proves they have every intention of letting you keep your characters, one way or another. I just hope we don’t lose character names, as well.
Why?
Put TBC on the new host, leave the people in classic alone, dont touch their stuff.
Right where you are standing, as soon as patch 2.xx releases (Originally)
Where could you enter BWL on classic release day?
You could not of course.
Later you could, the content evolved.
Is it a different game?
No.
MMO’s evolve, generally anyways.
Yes retail evolved in what most of us here feel were destructive ways that all but wrecked the past, but it is still WoW, not another game or WoW2.
You already did, and so did i.
Well ok, maybe you did not if you did not play in vanilla, but i did.
And that same character is standing someplace now in in retail.
(i think in the middle of the woods someplace)
He has in his possession objects that could only have come from vanilla because they no longer exist.
He has objects that could only have been gotten at the opening of AQ.
And yet there he stands in retail, because he is still in the same game.
It just evolved around him in a way he was not happy with.
Probably not, but for technological reasons
Because of how you are saying it
It reminds me of thinking in dutch then speaking it in english, literally, and the phrasing is all wrong and everyone else looks at you strange.
I wont have any gold when TBC launches, i wont be bringing any with me.
I wont even be bringing gear, just a name that i will affix to a new level 1 body.