thats a lie and you reeeetailer know it
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Agree to disagree.
By your logic. Dual spec is a trash design.
They changed it in later expansions, so it was obviously a bad design…
That’s what your saying
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Oh, so basically, you only switch once a week? That’s interesting. So what, you only do PVE for one week, then you farm gold for an entire week, then you go back to doing PVE for a week? That sounds, not very fun, and also, not very likely. I’m going to assume that you just play a DPS class and are talking for the sake of talking.
Exact opposite, as it is I can’t warrant respeccing everyday so basically, I end up playing less. I’m a Resto Shaman, I’ll do several Dungeons for instance, or a raid. Then I have maybe an hour or two before I pass out. Well, I log out and play a different game whereas if I had dual spec I could just go Enhance and grind out some mobs and farm some gold. However, I’m not going to spend 50gold to respec, farm for an hour and make 150g, then respec again for another 50g and have made 50g profit over an hour plus the time it takes to respec.
This is why I sincerely doubt you play a class that has multiple roles. You chalk it up to “100g a week” when in reality, if I was switching as often as I need to switch to play the game as much as I want to it would be closer to 1500g.
Can you please rationalize spending 1500g a week for me? I’ll listen to your argument. I doubt you or anyone else has one that’s reasonable to anyone that isn’t psychotically addicted to this game.
( I realize I’m responding to an old comment, but it’s basically the same argument everyone that disagrees with dual specs makes. )
Was dual spec in the original BC?
It was added in Wrath.
Oh, so why are people asking for it in classic BC?
Because Blizzard asked us what kinds of QoL changes we’d like to see.
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Hey cool, another dual spec thread.
Thumbs up!
100% these, I wish people would stop asking for dual spec in TBC, gtf over it. Just go play retail. Almost every convenience they’ve added to the game has resulted in degradation of the gameplay, and resulted in what is now retail, which is why we play TBC.
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I’m going to continue to ask for Dual Spec until Blizzard says no. Thank you for your opinion, level 20 Mechagnome Rogue.
No Locked behind anything if there going to give horde free instant ques then they better give free dual spec if that’s the case lol
I don’t know if someone suggested this because this thread is massive- but if people are concerned swapping specs mid raid is too strange they could make it so that you can only do it in a city. Cities contain class trainers, and would this really be stranger than taking a mage portal out of raid- respeccing- and getting summoned back?
I would love to see dual spec in TBC. Currently I play 3 toons: A hunter (no dual spec needed there for me), a shaman (could definitely used dual spec to either dps or heal when needed) and a paladin (could certainly use dual spec to go from prot to holy to fill the current needed role in dungeons and raids and also for pvp).
I don’t agree that it should cost 5k gold though. Something more along the lines of 1-2k gold would be still a decent money sink, imo.
I hope Blizzard listens to the claim of many and implements it before Classic Wrath (whenever it comes).
I think the key idea here is from what we learned in Classic, the reality is that Blizz needs to be reactive for the health of the game or people will just move on. While I do sympathize with the folks who want the experience to be like BC originally was, the data on the ground says that people are struggling to find the necessary components to play the content. Originally, ALL active players of WoW were playing BC at that time, nowadays there is retail to split the player base as well as far more other games entirely. We are not talking about cross server, party finder, etc. Simply, the population that is actively playing that wants to/can fill multiple roles being able to do so for the better of the broader player base. Keep people playing instead of debating logging in when they have 2hrs to spare because they might spend half of that trying to find a tank. Also, the tanks that have played I am sure are constantly getting pestered and probably makes that experience not so fun either when they may want to run something as a dps or healer for a change of pace.
I don’t have serious issues with Dual Spec.
However with that being said, Cat DPS would need to be boosted.
I say this as someone who isn’t currently playing a Druid, but one of the reasons Feral is brought to a raid is the ability to tank well, but also play middling DPS with the same spec.
With dual spec cat DPS will need to be boosted to consistent top end Warrior DPS levels…or many guilds won’t bring a Feral at all.
Outside of that I don’t really care.
The 2nd fastest Kara clear in the world had a Feral Druid and Prot Warrior. The Feral Druid used a total of 1 Cat form ability across the entire run. They had the Prot Warrior DPS on single tank fights because a Prot Warrior can do similar DPS to Feral Druids when not tanking.
The fastest clear had a Feral Druid and Prot Warrior as well. They had the Druid in that run DPS on single tank fights. The classes are interchangeable in MT/OT roles. Bears do slightly more DPS than Prot Warrior tanks and Cat Druids do slightly more DPS than Prot Warriors when dpsing on single tank fights. It’s a wash.
It would be appreciated,
I didnt play vanilla, i didn’t have or bought gold. and i’m constantly broke trying to craft gear, buy gems, enchants etc.
I haven’t played arenas yet because i don’t have the gold to respec twice a week.
I know this already!
It’s not about what I know, its about player perception.
How many times in threads do you have to see people post about Warriors being better…merely because Warriors for most are the default tank.
Feral’s need a more tangible reason to be in a raid, stabilizing Cat DPS simply by fixing Shred scaling would do that. If not a Dual Spec Warrior could go DPS and bring more damage than the cat when not tanking.
Parity needs to exist on both fronts, both in reality and in perception.
A great many guilds are already running War/War/Prot Pali as their tanks. Dual spec takes away that edge from Ferals, and you will see more of that and less Bears in content…until maybe Sunwell.
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That is how the original dual spec functioned
the problem why you don’t have duelspec yet is because you can’t make it a player made problem.
think about it…
mage boost in classic was a player made problem… blizz added boost…
horde one sided faction was a player made problem… introducing HvH bg’s test.
if you want something make it a player made problem. you will get it