TBC Considerations PART 2

Part of tier 4 stays relevant until sunwell, then another part becomes more relevant once they add the gem bag to magtheridon.

The flip side of them breaking up the tiers is going to be a couple of months of kael farming. Most guilds killed him twice (at most) then never went back to TK.

Kinda hope itā€™s gated even though itā€™s not technically accurate. IMO they ought to do the PvE seasons and PvP seasons at roughly the same times so that itemization is close ish.

I really hope for pre-nerf bosses they were so much more interesting that way. And some of that would be nice to break up the Zugzugs a bit. Give them something more to think about than ā€œDahboo, me parse harder!ā€

Haha yeah when you read that you heard the WC3 orc didnā€™t ya?!

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Certainly did!

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You are not ā€œforcedā€ to do arena. There are plenty of other options through pve that will help you clear bosses. If you choose to
Min max just for a parse, then you need to accept the work that comes with it.

I would prefer they go with the final versions of each patch and move forward with that method. The only major change i would like is the potion changes from the start as well as guild banks. Progressive patching, to me, allows for more interest that things are going to change over time.

I would welcome the barbershop to be honest.
Also think paladins need both seals for both horde and alliance.
drums i mean really? Drums have to be crafted and it is just 5% haste if drums are useless then everyone will just do enchanting for rings. drums are fine as is.

hard No on transmog.

I was not attempting to reflect the sentiment of sanity, but the sentiment of the thinking of the day (TBC).

Yā€™all just got no sense of fashionā€¦

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Mog has a soft spot in my heart, but I also understand why it doesnā€™t belong. I get both sides of it.

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Do you know how much my T4 is going to clash with the rest of my gear??!?!?

Malorne is all off-white and hints of green, and the off-set items are all blacks/purples if they match Netherblade, or theyā€™re the ugly brown/gray recolor of Bloodfang.

/harumph

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I strongly favor the look of T5 over T6 or T6.5 or whatever sunwell loot is because itā€™s kinda both T6 and better.

Also do not like nether blade, itā€™sā€¦ no thanks. I reference T1 strangely, but T2, T2.5 and T3 also look rather swag.

Whatā€™s a guy to do?

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I would love any of it. The problem with classic was literally the private scene controlling it due to pop size which gave them the edge to force blizzard into releasing the game as we see it. Its horrid imo. I played all of vanilla and many years after this time around was an absolute joke of what it was really like then. I would love to see classes and stuff fixed but with the progression that existed throughout tbc. We get all the viability and the enjoyment of the game without SKIPPING a ton of things that made it what it was. Like someone said, people will take the easiest path possible and i wonder if they actually worked for anything in their lives. I just hope blizz does it RIGHT this time and dont feed into those that ruined a great opportunity for those outside private server pop to relive or see what it was like in tbc playing it through creating a much healthier game for those that actually want to play the game close to what it was then.

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It actually surprises me that people want the easier 2.4 raids (in a few cases), itā€™s surprising because I would assume that anyone playing would be here for the content and friends and atmosphere; not the gear.

But turns out, even in a game that was beaten 15 years ago there are a few players who only care about the gear and character progression. That to me is a surprise, because character progression is kinda what retail is all about, it even has super EZ mode for them.

Iā€™m not even asking to make the raids harder than they were in TBC, but only to have the versions that were hardest for that expansion, and yet in this same thread one guy shows up wanting super nerfed content for reasons unknown to actual logic and reason.

Iā€™ll just suppose that many of the people who wanted super easy mode 1.12 also were guilty of begging for more content faster in Classic, remember the threads? They begged for BWL, Dire Maul and BWL, then Naxx. All because they blew through easy nerfed content.

Well, another problem is how people are these days in general not all but generally. They want everything to come to them as easy as possible. I like working torwards things, it makes me feel like i earned it. Most today dont want to work they want it handed to them. My kids were raised to work for what they get and 2 are gone now and people are amazed at how well they are doing. Its the values that have been put into people that has changed and its bleeding into the world like covid.

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Nailed it.

I wanted the earlier versions, and even I know they are in no way mythic retail hard, but will pose a decent challenge for the typical player, and frankly thatā€™s exactly what you want. Gives the average guy something to work on thatā€™s not impossible for him, but as for the super gamers, well there is always speed runs.

Itā€™s funny how perspective can completely skew someoneā€™s way of thinking. Iā€™d prefer the 2.4 raids and I have zero interest in gear. Iā€™m there for the content and friends and atmosphere. For the experience. I donā€™t play an mmorpg to be pushed to the ultimate limit and test my uber skills. Iā€™d play Demon Souls for that. Orā€¦just play Shadowlands. Thatā€™s the WoW game thatā€™s designed as an e-sport.

On top of that, Hell if I wanted to be showered in epics Iā€™d just play Shadowlands as well. 2.4.3 is nowhere near the welfare epics of the current game. Itā€™s justā€¦more forgiving, I guess. More accepting of more players. More accessible than early TBC. But still nothing like the Current WoW.

A few players? Look at what Classic became. Itā€™s the general player base as a whole. If Classic was anywhere near as grindy as the original, they just wouldnā€™t play.

In general people just donā€™t want to do any work. Itā€™s ā€œtediousā€ or ā€œboringā€ and thus, a waste of time.

They want World Zero on Roblox. Which when you do one of their raids, it really just feels like MC - a ton of players mindlessly face rolling their way to 5 bosses and be done in half an hour. Which by the way, Iā€™m playing with my kids and itā€™s a blast.

I have no frame of reference for that, Iā€™ll take your word for it.

Lol. Iā€™m always goofin.

haha, kinda figured. Tho I do have a soft spot in my heart for Mog, its justā€¦ really nice in expansions past TBC when gear started to look a bit less than stellar regarding style, although one of my favorite sets came from wrath so itā€™s not all bad.