Oh man, I didn’t realize that Siege of Orgrimmar was the first raid tier of MoP. Golly gee.
You got a source for that release date for 9.1?
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Doubt it – that would be way too long.
No, I don’t have a source but all of the reasonable expectation as guest work seems to be pointing at no sooner than late June since Towliee was told by Blizzard employee June would be a miracle.
The literal origin of this whole thing is Towliee being told by a blizzard employee June was “optimistic”
The issue behind the source is that its coming from Towliee so its entirely skeptical from the get go.
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You’re not getting 9.1 until the earliest July or August lol.
Two different teams, neither dependent on the other.
WE KEEP COMPLAINING about rushed expansions and underdeveloped systems then we keep pressuring and threatening blizzard to release things as soon as possible.
It doesn’t make sense.
Then I’m baffled at the fact people actually enjoy the way blizzard does patches. Essentially each patch is a new expansion in terms of progression. To me it’s extremely toxic and disheartening to have all of the work I put in the patch before given to players for free/little work and my progress reset to zero. This was 1000x worse when patches were being rammed at our face every 3 months. I actually quit the game until the final patch because there was no reason to work on gearing when my time wasn’t going to be respected due to a complete gear reset every 3 months.
So in your mind if they’ve “more-or-less recovered” then that erases all of the issues and delays it caused? And suddenly they should be releasing things on your preferred schedule? Do you not realize how dumb that is?
Furthermore, they’ve got two products. One is TBC Classic and one is Shadowlands Patch 9.1. They’ve already stated they don’t want to release them in tandem with each other, which I don’t think anyone really has an issue with. Of course they want to spread out their launches, that’s common sense. They decide TBC Classic is pretty much ready to launch. 9.1 still obviously has significant iterations of testing and patches to go through. Why in God’s name wouldn’t they release TBC Classic now? That doesn’t show preferential treatment for one over the other, it just shows that one is ready and one isn’t. You have no idea how long they’ve been working on either one, you have no idea how many people are working on either one, and you have no idea what issues either one has seen.
Pretending like you have some insider info about how one has “priority” over the other is just ignorant trolling, honestly.
Why should we doubt him? If it was Taliesan then I’d agree to doubt but Towliee is reputable
Massive assumption here. Wouldn’t Occam’s Razor indicate that 9.1’s content simply isn’t done yet and they’d rather get BC out quickly in case players want something different to do while they wait for 9.1? You seem to be implying that, were it not for BC, we’d be playing 9.1 within the next few weeks.
People keep saying this but Ion literally told Preach last week that the release of one would push back the other.
The development teams might take separate resources but that apparently doesn’t have anything to do with setting the release dates. We heard from the lead dev himself that releasing one would stall the other.
Sure I don’t, but I absolutely know how long SL has gone without any major content updates. Which is the point of the post.
I see what your saying, but if you look at the different parts of it…
Emerald Nightmare
Trial of Valor
Nightwell
…I think those three > Castle Nathria in size and scope.
I could see saying Emerald Nightmare and Trial = Nathria (7 bosses + 3 bosses = 10)
If you look at it like that, I think it makes a lot more sense to use that comparison, then 9.1 being the Nighthold equivalent.
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The further they progress into the expansions the less reconstruction they have to do.
Original classic was a challenge because they not only had to equip the Legion client to read old client data properly and massage the server-side data for the modern backend, but also to fill the gaps because the best data they had was a random dev’s backup of the 1.12.1 client.
With TBC, the client and server data structures are 98% the same as Vanilla’s, plus they don’t have the backup problem (they had started using a proper version control system by then). So very little reconstruction is needed, with most of the work going into rebasing the Classic client from Legion onto Shadowlands and fixing the odd unanticipated behavior (mostly having to do with creature scripting and nitty-gritty combat mechanics).
WotLK Classic will be similarly easy to whip up, especially because that’s where some of the more modern changes start coming into play (WotLK is better aligned with modern WoW than TBC or Vanilla were).
You have no evidence whatsoever that any content drought has been caused by TBC. That’s why your entire post is asinine.
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Purely a scheduling issue. If you’ve got product A and B scheduled to come out simultaneously, you’re splitting your revenue stream. Whereas if you stagger the releases, you’re more likely to sell both products better. It’s easier to get $50 twice than it is to get $100 once, especially if the two $50 installments are a couple of months apart.
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And who was that employee? Ion? The janitor? We have no idea what the credibility is behind that.
Why would he lie after being a literal shill for years?
I dont think having a known streamer publically announce that he spoke to someone from Blizzard about the patch being late.
Usually this would be amazingly bad if true and would poison the well; in these scenarios you will see companies pump resources and time into something for crunch time.
While May is very optimistic: I highly expect an announcement in May for early-mid June release.