Tanks/bears: what are you even doing?

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changes to “tuning” and “balancing” almost daily at this point.

when you changed bear and announced the changes to the other tanks, it seemed like you finally understood the state of tanking in your game.

but just days after programming bear one way, you are programming it a different way.

the forums are full of “it’s because of those 5 bears timing a +20” when the reality is the state of this game is one of rolling beta.

the game is simply unfinished and the more you tinker with it, the more it seems like you have no real idea what is going on.

I think between class trees, spec trees, hero talents, apex talents, and tier sets, you folks have bitten off more than you can chew.

I am just getting tired of the bugs, the flip flops, random extended maintenance, content that serves little purpose other than cosmetics, etc.

you have made some changes that are really interesting: delves, skyriding, warband renown, and particularly the renown champion gear this expace.

but, c’mon, the core part of the game seems to be falling apart.

and the idea that you are going to “tune” or “balance” the game based on what the top 0.1% of the player base can pull off is just ludicrous.

I made my first toon in late 2006 and have played on and off since 2007.

I took a break with BFA because of resource grind, pathfinder bs, and mission table nonsense.

all that got cleaned up and i came back for SL and classic.

but the state of the game today is troubling.

yes, I am particularly troubled by the back and forth bear changes. maybe they will be okay enough for now.

but the “problem with bears” is one you created. and instead of working on the fundamental issue that you have guardian all messed up now, you are making live changes weekly, daily, rather than leaving it alone until you actually fix the spec.

after alpha, beta, and PTR, it just looks like the live game itself is just rolling beta of an unfinished game.

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wrong forum u want the druid forum developers dont come here for feedback/rants.

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i was told to come here by a blizz GM

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Of course. Why would they want you talking in a place they actually listen?

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i mean, whats your point? they tuned down a clearly overtuned spec in a way that doesnt hurt its overal performance.

it just hurts the playstyle where you only press thrash and mf the most while leavign everything else generally untouched. the is probably the only tank spec in the game with 6 possible viable builds and its funny how most of the people screaming are just the players that put all their chips on one build cause fotm. instead of actively branching out and learning every part of the spec.

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How? The same gameplay will be in this build even after the nerf.

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Still the same Thrash/MF build and the nerf hurts raid where we can’t just AOE huge packs of mobs.

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I ran 4 m10s, and there was a noticeable difference in aggro generation from the Thrash initial damage nerf. Last week 1 thrash got all aggro, now it’s more like 85%. Anecdotes are not data, and 4 is a small sample set, but just what I’ve experienced so far.

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I mean most raids this season are cleave off main pro target anyways ?

Ya this nerf hurts thrash mf spammers the most doesn’t hurt anyone else as much

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yes, the lower threat is certainly noticeable. tankiness isn’t much changed.

some people will chime in with: “See. it made no difference.”

to which I reply, if it made no difference, then why did blizz do it? why do they make changes to a spec in live and then a week later revert those changes?

this is what you do on the ptr not in the live version of the game two months into a season.

they are just all over themselves.

i have yet to try out my other tanks. my VDH is at 2k score. I will likely push him to 10s.

I did get my resilient 13 key yesterday. I ran the same “official” no apex talent.

i was successful getting +13 skyreach after a couple of hours of research and practice. it is frustrating how some mechanics don’t become apparent until the higher keys and then all of a sudden delete you. (i.e. fiery talons)

not sure I will push my keys much higher. at least not for a while. there is shard farming to do and a 298 weapon to upgrade in the meantime :slight_smile: