Tanking in H Dungeons

You are safe to avoid this troll.

He will personally attack you when you prove him wrong 100 times, and he will tell you he put you on ignore 4 times while following you around the forum replying to all of your posts.

Everyone including tanks can learn their basics on their own time, without holding up anyone else.

Tanks who pull slow are fine, but I’m running ahead as the healer to pull until there is actually some damage to be healed. If it’s my own face getting caved in, all the better, at least I’m not scaring the dps then.

If a non-tank can pull without dying, they are right.
If they pull and die, the tank is right.
If they cause a wipe because they have so wildly overestimated their skillz, kick 'em.
Easy.

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Well you can but you have to have 551 at least in your bags.

Or just kick them if they only pull 1 pack at a time.

It’s been working great.

Only fast runs up in here, up in here!

You need to go fast so you can get back to posting on these forums all day long. This is the real end game for many of you WoW addicts.

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Amen brother.

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Outlaw. Do not call that combat, it be an insult to a once fine spec.

But at this point most know, or run the aura’s to know when roll the bones has gone bad lol. When that rng hates you…its not like you can fix it.

You may even get empathy in pvp when/if you try that. I knew when rogues RTB’d badly as I was there a few times myself lol.

ironic as you are here with us but anyway

theres nothing else to do really at the moment since some peoples main form of content is chasing gear, which we cant really do right now. so we get bored and do pvp on the forums. yep

Thank you for responding, I realize I rub some people the wrong way and they would rather just walk away by this point but this is how I learn. I have autism so I find things like this very confusing. Using ChatGTP they came up with several reasons I might have come off as condescending, would you please be able to let me know which if any are correct?

The Length and Detail of Your Advice: While your advice was detailed and well-intentioned, for someone with a lot of experience, this level of detail might have felt like over-explaining, which could be perceived as you assuming they didn’t know basic tanking concepts.

and

Sharing Personal Experiences: While sharing personal experiences can be valuable, the way it was framed—like the story about your friend who challenged you to tank at low health—might have been interpreted as you implying that the other person needed to learn similar lessons, which they might have found unnecessary or patronizing.

I never would have guessed this. Previously people have told me that sharing personal experiences helps people relate to one another in a conversational way and can prevent what occurred from happening. If this is the case I’ll have to adjust the framework I use when talking to others as if its happened once I’ve most likely had others feel the same.

However if you were a new tank my original post was an attempt to figure out if an issue existed and where it might stem from. I love helping people learn to tank or do M+.

The ‘Pro Tip’ Comment: When they responded with “Thanks for the ‘pro’ tip,” it seems like they might have already felt condescended to, and your reply about them not being ‘pro tips’ might have further reinforced that perception. They could have taken it as you dismissing their experience again.

I was just correcting what I saw here as a factual statement of my abilities. I’m not a pro or anywhere even close to one. It seems there is however extra meaning applied in this word that I’m not understanding at the moment.

Assumptions about Experience: You mentioned, “By the sounds of it you’re still relatively new to tanking,” which could have been interpreted as you making assumptions about their experience level. Even though you were trying to be helpful, this might have come across as dismissive of their expertise.

Hmm this one confuses me as I specifically tried to avoid using such language. I know part of the mistake came from thinking you were the original poster without checking which was a big mistake on my part.

I realize I might have misunderstood your experience level, and I apologize if my response came across as condescending. I wasn’t trying to assume anything about your tanking skills, just sharing what’s worked for me. It wasn’t my intention to talk down to you. I’ll be more careful with my wording in the future.

Also if you do respond about anything above thank you in advance for helping me understand all of this.

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What did I say ?

This made me laugh more than it should. :honeybee:

I don’t know if its possible to pull less than three there as there are pats wondering everywhere.

go go go go go!

Hurry hurry hurry hurry hurry!!!

ReSpEcT MuH TiMe As A PlAyErZ1!1!!!1

I have 17 kids, 14 wives and 256.3 dogs!!

I can spend 100 hours a week in WoW thanks to my sock and my bucket, don’t you dare slow down my limited time!!

Thank Ion.

I just did my first normal and tank ran off, mounted, 40 miles ahead of the group, 2 of which clearly didn’t know where to go.

Game design in WoW is bottom of the barrel nowadays, this shouldn’t even be a thing in an MMO.

You play MMO’s because you have time to waste, otherwise you have Overwatch.

:person_shrugging:

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Lmfao.

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Pulling reasonable sized packs at a time, burning them down, on to the next; is a reasonable way to do a dungeon. Some of these tanks pull the whole instance and it turns into an unorganized mess.

As a person who has a tank at 80 and another at 77 I hope they buff mob damage in heroic by some crazy amount to force people to pull smaller packs.

pulling one pack at a time is just as obnoxious as the people pulling boss to boss. Gone are the days of tanks doing their homework on dungeons i guess. Keep it smooth and to 8 mobsish is a great pace.

It’s trivial content and surely you can handle more than one pack at a time, so yes you should pull more than 1 pack at a time. But you should be moving and pulling at a capacity and speed that your group is capable of, anything below that (or above it) is bad.
As a tank you can judge this very easily after the first encounter in the dungeon… did it die quickly? Were you full life the entire time? Did you have to use any cooldowns?
If you’re moving one pack at a time and not using 1-2 minute cooldowns during your 30 minute slog through trivial non-rewarding content, you’re literally holding people hostage in your runs. Let’s do better.

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Its a pull what you can handle thing.

If you are pulling one pack at a time and everyone else is falling asleep, you should try to pull 2 packs and see how it goes.

Tbh its a disservice to your group if you are pulling slow just because.

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I don’t AFK tank. I just prefer to only pull 1 pack. I’m still there, but if someone pulls another pack. That is not my problem.

Because its a giant waste of time and is incredibly boring for dps and healers.

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