Sylvannas destroys the image of the Forsaken

That’s the point. We, “beat” you multiple times, but you have plot armour so you can’t actually lose anything. Blizzard has to hand wave our interstellar space ships to let you not outright lose.

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The only big counter that the Horde has is the NIghtborne. Because they could… technically… kinda warp a bunch of plague bombs right into the middle of Stormwind whenever they wanted.

Oh you care about some dusty lore blizzard can’t even be bothered to make it make sense. You guys follow some blonde haired blue eyed marry sue. /eyeroll

I was just simply talking about how the alliance are dying out left and right. Y’alls numbers are pitiful. Soon the horde will just take over and we will just wipe you off the face of the planet. It is known.

There’s a bit of a problem with that. The bulk of their portal technology relies on ley lines and some kind of network, which could be prevented. There’s no real counter to flying ships that are airtight and can teleport/shoot death lasers.

Legion isn’t, “dusty”. We just for some reason don’t have access to them.

The Alliance playerbase is dwindling at the top end but overall it’s pretty even. As for in terms of numbers, without Sylvanas the Forsaken have no way to actually repopulate… so yeah.

I mean the Vindicaar is gonna need some time to fly across the ocean to Orgrimmar, and they could teleport the plaugue bomb INSIDE the spaceship.

How would they do that, especially when it’s moving? Not to mention we’ve seen the thing move fast. Far faster than a zeppelin.

Oculeth can do it I’d imagine.

Right, but that assumes he can do it to a flying fortress with a myriad of defenses. We don’t know that.

Everything since cata has been dusty dawg. The alliance are weak cousin. Y’all get ya jaws cracked on sight. I’m not even going to address the lore cause y’all follow a dusty white dude.

We got plague bombs n tings. Might have a dreadlord in the tuck still you don’t know what I keep in my pockets.

I mean if you’re considering current lore as dusty, I’m not sure what to say to that. But the Horde has miraculously come up with numbers despite being beaten to basically nothing multiple times.

I don’t get what you’re inferring by, “dusty white”, but Anduin is very young. I’m not sure why we have a singular leader when we should have the council the Horde has, but again - I have no idea what you mean by dusty.

You have plague bombs, we have interstellar space ships with death lasers.

Sylvanas made the forsaken weak, she turned them into nothing more than her puppets. Instruments to accomplish her goals and keep her alive. Most brought back from the dead without a choice but to serve. I found it harder to play a forsaken than a death knight because at least the death knights fought for what they believed in, they found their own purpose. Maybe the forsaken can find something better to fight for (like for the HORDE) instead of for Sylvanas’s selfish desires. I think they have been used as much as Arthas had used the scourge and they are just realizing it now unfortunately.

Exactly this lore doesn’t make any sense. No one cares about it not even the people getting paid to write it. He’s just a nasty white boy. His dad went hard so ion know why he is so soft. He was definitely snitching in red ridge.

All I know is Alliance is weak. We smoke that tree everyday. We literally crashed pvp servers and took them over. Alliance was fleeing left and right. Y’all just don’t have the hands for us. Also again I might keep a dress lord tucked you don’t know my pockets.

Varian was a warrior, but was being tempered by his son - to the benefit of all, generally. Anduin is pretty soft, always has been, but he has been more warlike in BFA. I don’t like him as our sole leader, but he’s definitely the diplomatic superior of his father.

There’s definitely a disconnect between us here. I’m talking more from lore, and you seem to be pretty… not.

Well I never! I take offense to that Orc!

I DO have long term goals! I call them the “Fifteen Steps to Unholy Glee.”! -holds up book-

The first being to hunt down and gut Sylvanas.
The second being to behead Sylvanas.
The third being to impale Sylvanas on a sharp wooden stick.
The fourth being to watch Sylvanas as the crows peck at her flesh.
Fifth being to catch Sylvanas’ raging Banshee spirit.
Sixth being to chain Sylvanas to a crystal embedded in my sword.
Seventh being to use Sylvanas to hunt down and gut Nathanos.
Eighth being to behead Nathanos with Sylvanas.
Ninth being to impale Nathanos on a wooden stick.
Tenth being to watch Nathanos with Sylvanas as the crows peck at his flesh.
Eleventh being to catch Nathanos’ raging spirit.
Twelfth being to being to chain Nathanos to a crystal embedded in my OTHER sword.
Thirteenth being to use Sylvanas AND Nathanos to gut every single traitor who followed them.
Fourteenth being to purchase a little house with a white picket fence.
Fifteenth being to marry a nice Void Elf girl with whom I can spread my faith, the Forgotten Shadow.

See? I have long term goals. Now buy my book!!

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Anduin was prolly smoking Pookie or dawg food. That’s why he got his chest out in BFA for no reason. I just kinda think this lore has been wack for a really long time. You seem to enjoy it though so ima let you get your ish off. All I’m saying. Is in my many years of playing this game and smacking up alliance left and right. I’m feeling real good right about now. I did quit a few months ago. Just waiting my sub to let out so I mess around in GD in the mean time.

Damn son what did Sylanus do to you?

Sylanus? Oh yes! The deranged Baker of Bad Bread!

Well for one he was trying to pass himself off as a legitimate Bread Salesman.
Second. He worships the Holy Light. I’m a Lightslayer. I KILL those sorts.
Three, he sold me some Andorhal Rye (should of known a factory price was too good to be true).
Fourth, …Have you seen how aggressive the Cult of the Damned is in their bake-sales?

Fifth. I just don’t like him. Don’t like anyone who cheats the tax-man by calling it a “Religion”.

I mean I pay 15 Gold a year and they STILL CALL US A CULT!!

Man someone is going hard in this thread. Fell bait to the slurptek I see slurping his thread up

The lore after Wrath fell off hard for sure. I follow it to some extent, but I don’t really follow retail right now - I’m playing Classic primarily.