Sylvanas vs Thunderbluff? How? (Spoils)

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So I’m not the only one thinking a warfront is a good substitute for a cross faction raid, which people have wanted from time to time…

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Warfronts are good, despite some of the negativity they get. There probably should be a little more mechanics wise for the end fights. But they could be great. If they would put a little more into them, and if we had to put a little more effort into them.

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To specify why I say this is beyond absurd;

  1. What sort of justification is ‘Thunderbluff is the enemy if Baine escaped custody!!!’? How could anyone be so naive to think that the Tauren aligned with the Horde would ever side with them if the Warchief set fire to it? Is this some Deus Vult “God will know his own” bit they’re trying to pitch to further add onto the Horde “ArE We ThE BaDdIeS?!” bull(profanity) that the Horde audience has gotten this entire expansion? Why would Sylvanas even do something so hilariously shortsighted? Sylvanas’ character assassination is ridiculously out of whack. Sylvanas, as a character true to her design, would never do something to insanely stupid that’d sacrifice both a key to power and all the assets it provides.

  2. How would they put the assets forward for assaulting a city built atop a plateau? There is an entire war that has to be fought still, even if they didn’t move on the city and instead elected to try and starve them out (a failing effort, given that they’re so steeped in druidic and shamanistic heritage that famine in a bountiful place like Mulgore seems unlikely to work). The Horde’s currently on the backfoot, it has to deliver a win so devastating that they can see to internal political affairs and settle other issues without an outside party taking advantage of the Horde’s discombobulated state (chiefly, the Alliance, who has every reason to dismantle the Horde after Teldrassil.)

Like… seriously? What the (profanity) is this? Who thought this was a good idea? Who nodded their heads and said; ‘this would be a great story :)’.

Granted, Thrall could be full of (profanity) and would be wrong to assume Thunderbluff is a target, but everything else we’ve gotten turned out to be exactly as bad as initially thought, so, like, I’m not inclined to believe they’re just writing Thrall to not be the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Now, more than ever, we need dialogue between the writing team and the community.

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gate of mulgore warfront

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Nah, it’s that Sylvanas is supposed to be deadly and unstoppable so she can go for Thunder Bluff regardless of the Tauren I think. I don’t think it’s that she actually thinks the Tauren will side with her. I mean it’s the same as Teldrassil in that regard. “she has the support of the people”… don’t ask why.

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Horde players aren’t turning against Sylvanas like they are supposed to. So the Tauren get to be sacrificed for the narrative.

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This is how End Time really goes down, isn’t it? The Sylvanas fans stay on her side, until the writers have her kill everyone on Azeroth, until her and some ghouls are all that’s left.

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Tentacles :octopus:

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sylvanas likes tentacles i guess

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Yeah, cuz why wouldn’t any “true” Forsaken be ok with attacking the only people on the Horde who opened their hand in friendship to them(the only reason they’re in the Horde to begin with and weren’t wiped out by the Alliance), when other leaders would not, and have even provided them shelter within their capital in the Pools of Vision.

Y’know, for someone who takes issue with me trashing on elements of the Horde I dislike, you sure like to consistently make statements that completely vindicate my disdain of those elements of the Horde I dislike.(Ie. Current Forsaken/Sylvanas)

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You’d think that the Tauren would be the last Horde race that the Forsaken (excluding Sylvanas) would ever want to go after. The Tauren, nature loving as they are, were the only Horde race who welcomed the Forsaken into their home going back to WoW launch. They set aside their aversion to the unnatural state of undeath and welcomed the Forsaken into Thunder Bluff and gave them their own enclave within the city. But I guess we don’t really know what kind of control Sylvanas might have over the Forsaken at this time, maybe she’s employing some dark magics to give them a lot less free will than they believe. Or maybe it’s just lackluster writing.

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So i guess the final raid will be siege of thunderbluff

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Reasons

and all will be revealed soon

to think i took a 5 week break to come back to this.

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Okay, I have a solution to raiding Thunder Bluff. This plan is literally foolproof. So we take a bunch of Sylvanas loyalist shamans and mages and stuff and get them on a zeppelin or whatever, right? We circle Thunder Bluff, waiting for our chance to strike, then just…summon up a heavy gust of wind.

I’d like to see those 8-9 foot tall tauren survive getting wooshed right off the top of their precious Bluff. Checkmate, leftists.

Here is a handy diagram:

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I cant see that working. Not enough players sided with sylvanas to equal the alliance and Horde. plus it penalizes players who now cant play with their friends on the horde

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God please let it be true.

Thunderbluff is one of my favorites, but I’m willing to give it up just for the amount of unbridled salt among horde players this would dispense.

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So tauren die. But on the other hand Thunder Bluff would get an HD makeover.

…On the other, other hand though it would be on fire forever.

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Yes but if the horde really lost another city forever the alliance would have to lose one as well likely ironforge

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I beg to differ. The Tauren are the ones who adopted the Forsaken and vowed to try to cure their undeath. If anything the Forsaken and Tauren would be closer than any other races would be. They even have a little area in TB dedicated to them.

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I wonder when the Tauren will stop being the Horde’s woobie and get to be awesome minotaurs again.