Sylvanas redemption

Personally I wont be happy until her soul is ripped from her corpse and forced into her skull like Archimonde did to Thal’kiel forever undead but only a head for all eternity placed on a spike outside of Kaldorei lands as a warning for future would be upstarts.

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She is going to kill the jailer and take his spot willingly. She will do it herself that’s way she redeems herself and punishes herself .

Maybe it’s just our generation that is too snowflakey.

Back in the old day character that destroy an entire civilization or planet like Vegeta and Kerrigan is still considered the good guy.

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Here’s how I think things will play out.

As we’re fighting Sylvanas, she will be too powerful for us to overcome on our own. But she will hesitate in some fashion, and that’ll be the only reason she loses. Basically, she’ll question herself and her actions, and it’ll leave her open for the killing blow. Basically, she’ll recognize within herself the wrong she did and kind of commit suicide by letting us beat her. In a sense it doesn’t fully redeem her, but it redeems her enough so the Sylvanas fans can say, “WELL, she LET YOU kill her! See!? She was good all along!” While also finally allowing the nelf fans and saurfang fans to get justice. At least that’s how I see it playing out.

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I don’t want one…

But judging from the wording on the upcoming raid encounter, it doesn’t seem like we’re actually going to kill her so yeah… It’s probly gonna happen. And it’s probably going to be just as terrible as we’re all thinking

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That was just Sylvie’s cultural norm.

I mean America did firebomb a bunch of cities in WWII into rubble killing hundreds of thousands of civilians and people seem to be fine with America’s redemption. Who’s to say Sylvanas can’t re-emerge with a new round of movies and consumer products that make everyone happy?

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a thing alot of people dont seem to realize is that in the context of a setting where every one knows theres an afterlife and there are characters who are undead. a undead character who has died numerous times would be kind of desensitized to the idea of dying after a while and could easily justify her actions to herself as for “the greater good”. personnally i dont think they are going for a full redemption arc as that would be ridiculous. it seems to me like they are interested in fleshing her out more as a character. it seems silly to me that people love to complain about how the story has no depth but the second they try to do that the fanbase complains that she should be cartoonishly evil.

I just want the character to be done. Don’t care if it is killing, sending her off to space like Illidan, to keep her in the Maw to never be spoken to again, idc. Just end the chapter on Sylvanas. Good gosh the character has gotten so much face time she hasn’t been interesting since after wrath.

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But muh qween uwu

At this point, I want to see her get a redemption story arc just to read the meltdown threads on the forums and reddit. There have been so many “Sylvanas is a horrible evil person and needs to die.” threads, and i’m tired of seeing them. That’s the only reason why I want to see her get a redemption arc.

Well said!

hands Elmer a tofu :bear: :sandwich:

This is my thoughts on it.

They redeemed Illidan. They’ll redeem Sylvanas.

I’m firmly in the “Sylvanas is evil and needs to die camp.”

But the great thing about people is they can just choose to no longer be evil by not doing evil things anymore. People are capable of change, and there’s really no line you can cross where you can’t decide “I’m not going to do this anymore.” and just not be evil from that point on.

Now that doesn’t mean there should be no consequences, but consequences doesn’t have to mean instant death. If Sylvanas decides what she did in the past was wrong and she needs to change, she should be given the chance to prove that, and all killing her would do is deny her that chance.

I mean people say we are supposed to punch a WWII Era German but when we have people being forced into concentration camps today (actual ones similar to WWIIs version) we shouldn’t just look away and do business in that country.

Money is extremely important, don’t get me wrong. But I wouldn’t do business in WWII Germany and I wouldn’t do business in China today.

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I assume you’re talking about Japan over Germany, so given that: Considering the option was either carpet bomb the Japanese or attempt an invasion which would have killed millions upon millions of lives, given the options, The former seems like a better deal. Especially considering that the Japanese civilians would have to be contended with as well, not just the military. It would not have been easy and again, would have cost millions of alliance lives in the process. So I actually take issue with your statement, and clearly shows you believe a highly skewed version of actual historical facts. Thanks for being the purveyor of fake historical news.

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Where are these concentration camps?

I mean that would hit the trifecta at that point:

Garrosh 2.0 - Faction leader turns into genocidal villain at start of expansion
Lich King 2.0 - Royal figure turns into Death Knight to serve the Jailer
Illidan 2.0 - Previously vilified character takes position outside main storyline to serve as jailer possibly to be re-used later

[Vomit]

The chaos would be amazing.

Sylvanas burned Teldrassil after being told it was full of women and children. Then some of the carnage was mitigated. Game devs were apparently surprised at how many folks were upset about this. So we see massive amounts of Night Elves pouring into Stormwind. Elegy left the number of actual casualties vs survivors a bit questionable.

Of course WoW populations in general are, well, a joke. It’s mostly for gameplay purposes, but honestly, at this point I’m pretty sure all of our races should basically be extinct (with the possible exception of Humans who supposedly reproduce the most and the Forsaken who repopulate via people … dying).

It’s partly why thinking about things like the Culling of Stratholme, Camp Taurajo, Theramore, Teldrassil, and others honestly never phased me very much. “Oh no, a percentage of a population that is basically infinite died.” Yeah, the intent and action is bad, but it’s more “meh” in terms of effect.

There is no way anyone would support her being the next jailer. The one thing she has proven is she is untrustworthy and giving her that power would just mean we would have to constantly wait for her to back stab us with it.