Seek therapy OP. This obsession is not healthy
I mean, they only have 162 posts total. Seems a bit drastic to call it an obsession to discuss a story direction on the story forum regarding a hobby.
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Pretty sure all those odd letter choices should indicate this is not the first character they’ve posted with on this sub with. The previous incarnation of that lvl 10 NEhunter was every bit as obsessed. And Ëlësåna had over 2800 posts under their belt. A lot of which were of the same tone and temperament that Ëlësà here creates.
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Not really. If they have they have, it doesn’t indicate it, though. People use alt codes variously, forums aside.
So not that obsessed as well.
And you have other five thousand. Seems like a pretty standard situation and thread.
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You’re not wrong. I’ve been around for a while. However, lets just say that there is a particular tone and theme running theme with their posts. A lot of … very nihilistic, very victim oriented, NE topics. Many of which are based around hypotheticals of what “will” happen, such as this one.
It is what it is though. I got surprisingly bleak on these subs before I took a break. So I suppose I don’t have much room to talk.
I learned that this is probably not the thread to have read late at night when I was supposed to be trying to get to sleep.
Things I want to say, not coherent enough to say them.
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Don’t judge her. If you don’t like the thread ignore it. If you want to contribute to the topic then do so, but stop it with the ad honemium attacks and psychoanalysis.
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If only so we don’t get yet another Garrosh ending with her, I’d be for this. And with the character dialogue in the Nya’lotha raid, it adds some evidence that Azshara and Sylvanas actually weren’t up to wholly selfish goals.
I’ve never been terribly interested in the Teldrassil burning plot though, by which I mean, not angry with it as some Alliance players are–and this is despite having three nelf RP mains over the years. On the whole, I’d rather it just forgotten so we can stop being subject to its cringe… I played the pre-expansion questline and the logic of some of the quests was just horrible. (Let’s fly over the impenetrable wall to attack wisps–but not Malfurion just standing there–and not just fly our troops over as well …wait what?) That and even attacking Teldrassil in the first place and not Ironforge or somewhere…not having Alliance strike first on Undercity which they would be totally justified to do given the Hillsbrad and Silverpine quests…I hope they either have a DARN good reason for attacking Teldrassil that gets revealed in Shadowlands, or just let that story die because there’s no fixing it.
/salt
The reason was to send all the victims on Teldrassil to the Maw to empower herself, hence being able to overpower Saurfang and Bolvar so easily. Beyond that, Sylvanas sees Azeroth as a prison, and if the Jailer is released he will destroy everything.
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God, there is a part of me that truly hopes she remains the selfish, nihilist that she comes across as. No secret altruism, even if she is calling attention to a problem that needs to be addressed. Just pure, desperate, drive to act upon her own twisted perspective of reality … one that needs to get shut down hard. Preferably at the end of nice little Glaive from a certain Night Warrior.
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They lost their home, not their entire civilization. The funniest part is, the heart of the Kaldorei is supposedly in Feralas, you know… Where they train their military and is considered the “deep forest.” By the way, Teldrassil was only about 14 years old. You’d think Ashenvale and Feralas, and also Val’sharah - the ancestral homes of the Kaldorei would be more than enough to rebuild living space for the surviving number of Kaldorei.
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Thank you for sharing, even though I feel this post is far from objective about the situation, I do look forward to seeing how it all plays out in the end.
It’s not a choice your actually making. They will redeem her or not regardless of anything you do. Either they dont and your repetitive posts are silly, or they do and your repetitive posts were pointless. It’s a silly exercise either way
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You are not the only one. Hate Sylvanas now, and back in Wrath me and another fellow RPed DKs that were loyal to her over Arthas. Seeing her character slowly decline has been painful.
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That math is wrong cause it only takes to account the quest, not the whole days of nelves leaving teld to go to stormwind
I don’t think trying to discredit the author instead of refuting their point is a valid form of debate.
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I don’t know what Blizzard was thinking. They smash things all over the place with the villain bat to make one character evil? And then just ignore all the consequences? One the grounds that players just won’t remember?
Now it is possible that…
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Blizzard says “morally grey”, and then does the opposite. I don’t think they know what it means. Apparently making one faction evil and the other morally good counts to them.
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That was an “experiment”, Blizzard will pay no attention to it unless it suits them.
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Blizzard likes to give villains reasonable motivations. Like the Legion trying to save the universe (though not most people living in it) from the Void Lords. One of the few rules of good writing they follow.
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They pay no attention to consequences. They did Teldrasil to make Sylvanas evil, and apprently had no clue to how if feels to player characters to serve such evil.
Now that it served its purpose, Blizzard won’t have any problem ignoring it.
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They might well think they can surprise us with that, but I so no particular reason to believe that is they way they will go.
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Callia is clearly going to be new leader. Even if Blizzard is blind to how many Horde players will resent that they couldn’t even write decent Forsaken lore, but just made an Alliance character leader.
They have ruined Sylvanas as a character and any hope of going back is a pipe dream. But, one proviso, is that Blizzard seems full of bad ideas.
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They need to kill her off in Shadowlands and then hire someone who can actually develop Horde Lore to replace all the characters they have killed off.
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I could think of a lot worse things than them simply letting Sylvanas escape judgement. Much worse. Be glad if that’s all that happens.
Agreed. And I may be among the minority, but on paper I do conceptually like who we have in charge of each Horde Race atm. Both Core Races and ARs. I think a lot of them need a lot of work and attention, most notably Voss, Kiro, Geya’rah, and Mayla, but they do have potential when placed within a Council System like this. Granted, “Potential” is worthless if its never reached. I would also like Vol’jin’s path to lead him to fulfilling Sen’jin’s prophecy for him.
When it comes to the Horde’s presence in Shadowlands, my ambition is actually pretty small. I want development for certain characters for sure, but when it comes to Sylvanas … I merely want the Horde Faction to have a tangible part in thwarting the very plans she turned us into expendable tools for. I want the toys she discarded, to screw her out of her dream. The actual act of killing her and ridding the world of both her and Nate … should go to the Alliance.
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