You do understand that the Orcs perfected Forest combat in the First War?
More like Russians trying to subdue Finland in the Winter War. They may have won in the end, but the blood price was steep, and the USSR as a nation was thoroughly humiliated.
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There is a difference between perfecting forest combat and invading a magical forest your enemy has been patrolling and fortifying for 10 thousand frigging years.
Ever heard of home advantage?
The only thing separating the forest trained orcs compared to some invader isnāt as well versed would be āyeah, this place is bad news, letās not mess with it.ā while the other invader would blindly march to their doom.
Yes perhaps a better example. Either works in that the cost would not be worth it and whatever army you used to invade is not going to be useful anytime soon.
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Isnāt that just the Allianceās BfA story?
If whoever was in charge of the actions, shots and dialogue in that cinematic hadnāt made those choices, it wouldnāt have become a meme.
And I think Afrasiabi was also one of the devs responsible for Sylvanasā ridiculous plot armor.
Thereās good reason for that meme. Plus, if I recall, when Arthas stabbed Sylvanas (according to the novel āRise of the Lich Kingā and every cinematic), he stabbed her through the stomach - though I think it was a slash across the torso in the RTS cutscenes.
What Anyaceltica said is a good summary, but it left out one thing. Thereās a picture of some of the worst offenders from the lawsuit, including Afrasiabi himself, posing on a hotel bed with a big picture of Bill Cosby (and Cosby was convicted of even worse; they claimed not to know of Cosbyās crimesā¦ but after this I wouldnāt be surprised if it turned out they were lying).
Thereās also a picture of a text exchange between David Kosak and Alex Afrasiabi about finding women for the āCozā that happened around the time the photo was taken. The former - the Cosby suite photo - is seen hereā¦
https://preview.redd.it/artzg7x1yzd71.png?width=965&format=png&auto=webp&s=b36a16919f747fa2878d50bd664bb9792f15950c
and the latter text exchange is seen hereā¦
https://preview.redd.it/m6v6drgsyzd71.png?width=965&format=png&auto=webp&s=7d28923855294d7189acb25d9a28b3b921dfb362
Saying the success of WoW went to their heads is an understatement.
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We wish we could be as cool as Finland.
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Thatās the Allianceās story every time thereās a faction conflict because they are supposed to be ashamed of their urge to defend themselves. The Devās canāt help but fistpump for the Horde whenever the faction conflict gets recognition. At least until they remember about the status quo and force the Alliance to Save the Hordeās Honorā¢ or whatever they are calling it now.
Which is why I find it concerning that people are sweeping Kosakās involvement under Afrabashi. Sylvanas isnāt the only female character in WoW to have her character assassinated to make room for toxic masculinity.
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I struggle to think of a historical example of an enemy nation marching into a country, destroying everything and everyone in their path.
Then the invaded country starts fighting the enemy nation to a stand still, joins a coop and then signs a peace treaty with this said enemy country.
Has this ever happened?
Usually these things keep going until one country absorbs the other.
I donāt know why anyone sweeps Kosak under the rug. While the guilty devs are all guilty, some were worse than others. For myself, I single out Afrasiabi more because he outranks most of the people in that lawsuit including Kosak - in fact, if you look at the messages in their text exchange, Afrasiabi comes across as the ringleader of the group Kosak was āgetting the chixxā for - and he was in charge of a lot WoWs story.
And I did make a list of several of the female characters who I think were thrown under the bus due to toxic views and attitudes on the part of the devs. They were;
- Jaina
- Tyrande
- Sylvanas
- Xeāra
- Yrel
- Ysera
- Sally Whitemane
There are a few examples, such as when Genghis Khan led the Mongols to wipe out the Khwarazmian Empire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquest_of_the_Khwarazmian_Empire
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Kwarazmian was wiped off the earth and so were the Abbasids. The only muslim nation to actually stop the Mongols were the Egyptian Mamluks and they were pretty effective at it. Only losing one battle against them if I recall. The mongols never got the chance to do what they did to Baghdad to Cairo or Alexandria. Maybe the Horde resembles the Mongols in their brutality but I canāt think of a nation as placid as the Alliance when faced against such an enemy.
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Because Afrasiabiās influence is more recent and his name is a part of the lawsuit. Iād put money on people not knowing who Afrasiabi was prior to the lawsuit and, since heās not mentioned anywhere near as often outside of story circles, people are going to keep not knowing who Kosak is.
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One of the first books I read first as a Readerās Digest extract than as the full book was āThe Tunstaā by Teppo Turen in which a family makes an escape from Finland to America in a sailing boat they outfitted themselves.
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To provide a real life example. Australiaās military does train in guerilla tactics and how to counter them. This really started up towards the latter half of WW2 since Japan was knocking on our doorstep basically. Despite that, we still got our asses kicked in Vietnam. Although not as much as the US forces did.
Sometimes you can be well trained in a style of combat and still get your asses kicked. I would say fighting humans and later High Elves in their forests is different compared to fighting Night Elves who can go invisible in the dark and can use the very environment against you. There is a reason why Archimonde was scared of Cenarius after all.
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Unlike those of the Night Elves, the Vietnamese military forces hadnāt been lured out of the country.
That would have more of an impact on the story if the writers stopped using the ingame scale as the canonical scale.
It took Arthas a month to go from Lordaeron to Northrend. But it only took the Night Elf fleet a week or so to go from Darkshore to Silithus AND back.
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I realize now who Alliance is.
They are Australia and the Horde is their hated enemy. The Emus.
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Good old Australia, one of the only countries in the world where it is legal to eat your national animals (that being Kangaroo and Emu). We even went to war with one of them because they are a pest.
And we lost.
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Hey donāt feel bad. It must be hard to aim when you are upside down.
Wait you guys eat kangaroos? Arenāt they like giant rats?
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Legend says they taste like chicken.
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No in one of the interviews he literally said heās the guy they call in to get the faction war going again
Heās the in-game violence and chaos guy
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