Most if not all mop warlock lore got thrown out the window.
We lost metamorphosis, mop last tier talents were based off legion big baddies but this is gone.
Hell blizzard excuse for not giving Zandalari warlocks is because they don’t use fel but they gave the class to vulpera.
Fel is the base of what a warlock is.
Just because it was thrown out in terms of Gameplay doesn’t mean it was thrown out in Lore, especially given stuff that predates MoP by years.
But yes Zanadalari lack of Demoniacs was extremely dumb.
Yeah but look at the races that can’t be warlocks.
They clearly can have sinister magic users but unless it’s tied directly to fel they don’t get warlocks.
Maghar,Zandalari, Kultirans.
But also Mag’har don’t have “Dark Shamans”. All the Mag’har are OD “traditionalist” shamans/magic users.
Kul’Tirans and Zandalari both not getting warlocks was dumb given lore precedent; and I don’t think there was an explicit justification. They were both even in the previews in 2017 and 2018 but were removed during Beta, if I recall correctly. It was just Blizzard being petty/disrespectful to locks yet again imo.
Maghar priest are not holy light priest.
They’re part of the shadow moon clan using void magic
Shadowmoon Clan use of Void and Death is not a Dark Shaman.
Your point was that all dark magic users are warlocks.
The maghar have dark magic users but no access to warlocks because they have no tie to the fel
No I said any magic user that transgresses their rules are warlocks.
Take for example Blood Mages and their lore. They are mages, yes, but use fel historically. Within gameplay Blood Mage fantasy was cut in half: Mages got Phoenix and Felomelorn, but Warlocks got Incinerate animation and used to have Verdant Spheres but still within canon can use demon souls.
Edit: Also Drain Mana (RIP), and Banish
Most blood mages are labeled as practitioners of fel.
Kael’thas was a mage most of his life and began using demonic magic in the last like 5 years of his life
My statement stands.
I’d also like to add that dark iron dwarves and goblin shamans are dark shamans baseline.
These races can be warlocks but their shamans lorewise aren’t seen in the same line as a tauren or orc shaman
Yes much like Kul’tiran Tidesages are “cut in half” between Shamans and Mages. And Blood Elf Blood Mages are cut in half between Mages and Warlocks. And Troll Shadow Hunters are cut in half between Rogues, Hunters, Shamans, and maybe Shadow Priests. Or Forsaken Dark Rangers being Hunters and Rogues and maybe a smidge of Shadow Priest or Affliction Warlock or Unholy DK.
Lore-Fantasy isn’t usually 1 Lore: 1 Spec/Class, it’s often distributed among classes and specs.
Again, and bolded for emphasis
Except every blood mage in world of warcraft not warcraft 3 is clearly a warlock not a mage.
Actually Kael’s verdant spheres were retcon’d to not be fel at all, and Legion Mage Order Hall questline made the Fire Mage player essentially the heir to that legacy.
Also: https ://wow.gamepedia.com/Bloodmage_Drazial
Also given during MoP’s Isle of Thunder questline there are references to Blood Mages but since the Sunwell is now a Super Lightwell and the devs have said Blood Elf society doesn’t freely use fel anymore, it’s unclear.
Regardless, it’s not “clearly anything”. Blood Mage Lore Fantasy™ was divided in terms of lore and gameplay between in-game (Destruction) Warlocks and (Fire) Mages.
Again:
Felomolorn was kael’thas father weapon that was used versus Arthas.
Death knight vs a Mage.
Blood of the highborne stated the verdant spheres were used to destroy the sunwell. They remained in power after that but were corrupted * key why warlocks got them not mages*
Kael never used the spheres actively until after their corruption.
Corrupted by the Kelthuzzad resurrection, i.e. Death/Decay/Necromantic magic. Not fel. Previously in the RPG and thus the assumed canon until that retcon, Verdant Spheres were demon souls.
Which is why I said “probably-not-going-to-happen”
affliction should be all about dots and curses, I’d rather darkglare be a demo talent or something, but misery baseline would be great