Survival Using 1-handed swords/axes?

Ryunaginata-wyrmrest-accord · February 22, 2019, 5:04pm

Howdy!
We can all agree that hunters have gone through a ton of changes, some good, some not so much. As for me, I really enjoyed MM in Legion and have no idea why the changed it for this expansion😑. Back to the point of making this post, I personally would like to see survival be allowed to use 1-handed swords, axes, and even daggers, not just 2-handers. I think it plays more into the fantasy of the class and I also think they should just change the spec name to “Ranger” rather than “Survival”. These are just some personal opinions of my own that I wish I could change it too but I’m open to hear everyone else’s opinion. Thanks😁

Íwasadopted-bleeding-hollow · February 22, 2019, 9:48pm

Similar to Arms Titangrip, give Survival the option for dual wielding in a talent. Faster attacks and maybe allow both weapons to strike with mongoose/raptor strike? A return of Counterstrike AND make it useful for PvP?

I think the reason why we haven’t and most likely won’t see dual wielding is because of balancing. Let alone people will just choose whichever is the superior option in most cases.

Masoschism-bloodscalp · February 23, 2019, 12:23am

Let SV use a bow and I will play it.

Taurseye-area-52 · February 23, 2019, 8:59am

I will up vote this blood elf 100 times.

Ryunaginata-wyrmrest-accord · February 23, 2019, 10:40am

So essentially, let it go back to a ranger spec or rather, have the main abilities be used with a bow?

Drakaga-shandris · February 25, 2019, 1:54pm

Dual wielding should just be a transmog option for it. That would keep it simple.

Ryunaginata-wyrmrest-accord · February 25, 2019, 2:55pm

That’s an excellent point and one that I should have thought of from the beginning. It would work easily I believe.

Kolzak-emerald-dream · February 25, 2019, 3:52pm

Doesn’t really make sense to me. Who hunts with a sword or axe?

Drakaga-shandris · February 25, 2019, 5:03pm

Rexxar’s been doing it for over a decade.

Whim-emerald-dream · February 25, 2019, 6:48pm

Rich European nobles before the first world war.

Cömanche-zuljin · February 25, 2019, 8:59pm

Gross… SV is a budget outlaw rogue.

#MSVRA Make survival ranged again

Jinn-frostmane · February 25, 2019, 9:10pm

I have played Survival and Outlaw Rogue exclusively throughout BFA and mained Outlaw throughout Legion. While both classes mix ranged/melee and have some similar themes they feel quite different from eachother.

For me personally Survival feels stronger and is generally easier to play. Outlaw’s rotation can be quite spastic and it has big swings in energy regeneration. To me Survival has a smoother playstyle. Even the RNG of Survival is more streamlined because you can see the color of your bomb before you throw it if talented into wilfire infusion.

That’s just my opinion though. If Survival had the cleave and defensive cooldowns of Outlaw it would be the perfect spec.

Cömanche-zuljin · February 25, 2019, 9:20pm

Agreed mine too. I am a fanboy of the old SV until they nerfed it into the ground and tried to bring back the frankenstein version of vanilla it is today. I remember when they had multishot blackarrow in a PTR build… After that, I knew they couldn’t possibly balance the spec so they did away with it.

Roshani-tichondrius · February 25, 2019, 10:11pm

Make survival truly unique. Let a ranged weapon take up the “offhand” slot and be used in the serpent sting animation. Then we single-wield a one-handed weapon in melee combat. Give us access to glaives while you’re at it and my troll shadow hunter fantasy will be complete. Would allow for night elf sentinels as well.

Bepples-khazgoroth · February 25, 2019, 10:49pm

Are you referring to the Archimonde trinket?

That could have been such a big deal for ranged Survival. What could have been…

Cömanche-zuljin · February 25, 2019, 10:55pm

No, it was a legit Multishot Blackarrow. It was too OP, it was never going to survive. I feel like MOP area. I had some back and forth with Ghostcrawler at the time. So maybe it was towards the end, def pre WOD.

Ryunaginata-wyrmrest-accord · February 25, 2019, 11:31pm

Exactly lol

Kolzak-emerald-dream · February 26, 2019, 12:04am

Personally I won’t play survival till they make it ranged again. If they don’t, I still have 2 other specs to play.

Whim-emerald-dream · February 26, 2019, 12:33am

This, so this.

Bepples-khazgoroth · February 26, 2019, 12:41am

Just looked it up. You’re right! Black Arrow was going to work similarly to Powershot; it would apply to every enemy between you and the target.

https://www.engadget.com/2012/02/23/scattered-shots-new-hunter-mop-talent-updates/

That sounds awesome. I wonder why this didn’t make it to live? That means in both MoP and WoD they were preparing major, very interesting changes to SV but just went back on them before the testing process. This is what frustrated me about the whole “there was no way to differentiate MM and SV!”. There were unique mechanics being suggested and being implemented for SV all the time. Blizzard just rarely if ever followed through on them.

The trinket I was talking about made Black Arrow reset often, meaning you could multidot with it and get inundated with Lock and Load procs. It’s clear that Black Arrow multidotting was the path forward for ranged SV.