Just throwing this out there, what do y’all think about hunters being able to tank? I think a melee hunter (wether survival or BM getting a melee option) tanking with their pet(s) would be really cool. thoughts?
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Shamans first.
- Rockbiter (original) had a threat modifier to it
- They’ve already got access to shields and 1 handed weapons
- Garnering the power of earth for defense.
They were meant to tanks and got scrapped. Bring them in, then we can talk about hunter tanks.
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Cool? Perhaps to some.
But practical? I would argue not.
Trying to design a tank spec intended to function with 2 different units(hunter + pet), it will most likely become a giant pain.
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Dreadful idea.
- The game doesn’t need more tank specs
- Tanking doesn’t fit within the Hunter class identity no matter how you look at it
- It would require a huge amount of effort to produce something most Hunters don’t want to play, just like melee Survival
- It would inevitably replace an option more Hunters want to play
- Any unique Hunter tank would involve the pet, which is a disaster waiting to happen
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ITS BEEN TALKED TO DEATH:
You have a pet to take damage for you, why would you stand there and take a hit to the face instead?
Enhancement use to be able to tank way back, but Blizzard didn’t like a spec playing anything other than what they had originally intended.
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Why do yall want hunters to stray away from what makes us unique lol we do not need anymore tanks
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Pet AI is so bad in this game already. Imagine if it had to be a full fledged tank for your group? That would be horrible.
No thank you.
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What exactly makes hunters unique? Because you’re a pure dps class? Like Mages, Warlocks and Rogues? Because you have a pet? Like Warlocks and DK’s?
Nothing hunters do/have is unique to just them. Traps maybe? But even then a lot of classes have ranged snares.
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Ranged weapons.
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Like wands?
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No.
Wands work nothing like ranged weapons for hunters.
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But if you’re saying that ranged weapons are what make hunters unique… They’re not. Wands, although not having spells attached to them, are items that you equip in the weapon slot that can be fired at range.
They are by their very definition, ranged weapons. Which all cloth casters can equip. So saying that hunters “thing” is ranged weapons is wrong. Because technically every cloth caster can equip a ranged weapon, and deal damage with their weapon at range.
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You mentioned the very thing that makes ranged weapons used by hunters unique.
Using a ranged weapon as a hunter allows for a playstyle which you cannot get anywhere else, from any other class.
Ofc the actual weapon in itself isn’t the core part of what makes us unique. It’s what equipping one as a hunter does for us/allows us to do.
I actually thought this was obvious.
Yes, wands are classified as ranged weapons.
But the mechanic of using them as a caster, is basically a toggle on/off-mechanic.
That’s all you can do with them.
Ranged weapons used by hunters are VERY different in how you make use of them and how they define the class in general, compared to Wands for casters.
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Survival going melee has conditioned people with little-to-no investment in the class to make increasingly drastic revamp suggestions that are even more contrary to the Hunter class identity.
After all, that’s what a melee Hunter originally was and Blizzard actually went ahead with it, so why not do it again? That’s the logic being used here and I’ve seen it in many posts suggesting a Hunter tank spec since Legion.
You are being so hyper-pedantic that you are basically trolling at this point. It’s ridiculous to pretend there is no distinction between wands and the ranged weapons of Hunters. It adds nothing meaningful to the discussion to point out that wands exist.
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I know… I am. I thought it was very clear by the second post that I was being sarcastic about it. I just decided to roll with it because he was super serious about hunter weapons not being wands. They’re very obviously very different. Both in mechanics, and impact.
But the fact that someone didn’t understand that I wasn’t being serious about bringing up wands being equated to a hunters main source of damage was funny to me, so I decided to troll him a little bit.
That’s also why I didn’t respond to his last post about it. I decided it was enough trolling and left the subject alone with him being right.
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I think they’ve squeezed enough into the ranged class I started playing during TBC. I endured the loss of my resource, I endured the biweekly overhauls after Cataclysm launched because “oh, we really messed this up” I endured constant expansion by expansion major overhauls the likes of which only a few classes endured a few times throughout many expansions, I endured total class approach changes per expansion. I then endured the abandonment of the ranged Survival spec during the expansion prior to it being gutted out completely to give the ranged class I chose all those years ago a melee spec I never wanted.
My thoughts?
Hunters are not a bag, stop pushing things into it that won’t fit elsewhere.
Why was hunter not given a 4th spec?
Ask the development team because I have no idea. Choices were, 4th spec, new class, or remove an entire spec and change it from ranged to melee. To me, the latter has always seemed the most extreme. Survival was the only spec that remained somewhat similar from one expansion to the next. Like every other spec, it was overhauled and completely different, but because of lock and load, the spec approach was something you could set your watch by. Was the only comfort every hunter had one expansion to another, when all the specs went through an overhaul, there was something we could all fall back on in a pinch.
This is my opinion.
I’m sure many people won’t agree with it. I’ve played Survival, it’s quite fun. I would have enjoyed having it as a 4th option for when I was bored with the Lock and Load, turret style Survival which replaced WoTLK Marksman as a somewhat similar feeling playstyle, despite all the specs feeling like you’re playing a battery charger simulator.
Another opinion, WoTLK Marksman was World of Warcraft’s best Hunter iteration. Then we were turned into mobile battery chargers.
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Sure mate.
This is your second post:
What exactly makes hunters unique? Because you’re a pure dps class? Like Mages, Warlocks and Rogues? Because you have a pet? Like Warlocks and DK’s?
Nothing hunters do/have is unique to just them. Traps maybe? But even then a lot of classes have ranged snares.
If you would’ve skipped typing that last part while leaving the first one then sure,
I could’ve interpreted it as sarcasm.
But since you wrote your post the way you did, and as a direct response to what was asked…let’s just call it a bit of a stretch.
But fair enough. If it was then I’ll leave this here.
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This. I rather see Shaman get tank over Sv. I don’t even play Shaman.
I would not want Sv to be a tank. I would not play it if it was. Sv can go back to range or stay melee, I wont care but no on tank.
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Hunter tank is my dream spec. I love tanking and I love being a hunter. It’d be unique in that it would have a pet taking some of the damage of the hunter. Then maybe the hunter would use resources/abilities to heal his pet so the damage can continue being split. Kind of like stagger, in a sense.
It’s a dream I doubt would ever come true, but I’ll still continue hoping. For now I’ll continue loving melee Survival.
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You know blizzard has a whole page on classes and their fantasy right? It helps to read. Goes a long way.