Thanks for the arbitrary info
Iâm sure you think DOOELS arenât arbitrary to this topic, though, yeah?
I really hope youâre under the age of 25 and just have an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex, because then thereâs some hope for you.
If not? I do believe you need some accommodations.
Nah, it wasnât. I mained surv in vanilla and the ONLY situation you were better in melee than in ranged, was versus another hunter who was NOT specced survival. There were melee abilities for the time you were forced into melee but your end goal was 100% of the time to get back to range.
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DOOELS stand for�
Itâs âduelsâ with an obnoxious and mocking pronunciation, lol
Ahh, gotcha. I never think of sound-based explanations, for obvious reasons.
Thanks!
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Says the person saying âDOOESLSâ yet wonât fight one.
Yes, but weâre not talking about replicating that down to a T, weâre talking about something modern that play on the premise. Nothing was done right back then, and now we have a chance to evolve it. Either way, SV hunter is better as a trap focused, ranged dot spec.
Yeah I am just against anything that takes away an entire ranged spec from the class designed to be ranged. I now have to choose between being a beastmaster or MM. Which is fine sometimes but I loved having that 3rd spec as an option. Now itâs worthless junk I will never play in any iteration so long as itâs melee. There are tons of other melee classes out there already.
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Transfer to ED and become involved in our wpvp community and Iâll duel you, otherwise I just donât care lmao
I love my SV hunter. 
Iâm sorry some of you lost your 3rd ranged spec, I am! It was actually my favorite hunter spec before SV went melee as well. Though the whole reason I even went back to playing the character was in preparation for the shift to melee.
Hate that you lost a spec you liked, thatâs fair. But SV is fun, and Iâm here to show further support for itâs current iterationâmy favorite yet!
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Another copout, but an easy win for me, lol.
Glad youâre having a great time with it 
I wish I could say the same. Right now Iâm actually enjoying it because Iâve improvised a ranged spec concept, but I know Iâll probably have to abandon it because Blizzard didnât actually intend for anyone to do this.
I think a 4th spec would be cool for the current iteration, but Iâm happy that youâre enjoying yourself. Happy hunting and have fun! 
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The amount of importance you place on duels only emphasizes the very lack of knowledge or skill thatâs likely to result in the most obvious outcome anyway.
Duels are the purest form of combat, especially since weâre same class and spec. Donât try to play off your own cowardice with a strawman statement like that.
The fact that you think this is a skill based game in the first place is comical. WoW was booted from E-sports for being outdated and laughably imbalanced. A skilled player can be destroyed by an unskilled fanatic who has more gear.
People use target macros instead their own hand eye coordination. Itâs unskilled by itâs very nature, and builds bad habits in good players. A better example of gameplay and teamwork mechanics is Overwatch, and WoW would be 10000% better if it played like that. As it currently stands, WoWâs competitive play is a JOKE, which is exactly why I laugh at gullible people when they think arena rating makes a guru out of someone.
Truthfully, I loved the idea of arena originally because I thought itâd be an extension of the Gurubashi Arena days. Every weekend we had people standing in the rows above the arena watching us wreck Horde in no-rules battles. I wanted to see more that, and a betting system, but nope, instead we got empty seats in an instance and an even emptier experience.
LOL
When did I say that? Isnât it a bit ironic to demand everyone that says youâre clueless needs to duel you if you think the game isnât skill-based?
No? Itâs still an E-Sport, just not a very profitable one.
Itâs just not part of MLG anymore.
LOL
Youâre adorably daft.
Lol what? Itâs a fact. Right now the gear is even, so yeah itâs a better test of skill for fights. Then again, youâre used to hiding behind broken systems like corruption and groups.
Anyone whoâs played this game for more than a week knows that skill takes a backseat to gear, and therefor it is not skill based. However, being what it is, duels are still a viable test of what skill there is in this game.
No itâs not. They were booted and had to start their own thing after the game was proven too imbalanced to be taken serious. This is why itâs not profitable. WoW tournaments are only seen in Blizzardâs own echo chamber among its dwindling fanbase. 
If they cleaned up their act then arena could be taken seriously and draw in more players. However, if theyâre just going to make it some cheap gear grind, then thatâs how Iâm going to treat it. Get my gear and go on to more interesting things. Thereâs nothing to be gained from rating, so why bother?
Again, elaborate. Saying Lol and name calling isnât an argument. All it shows is that you canât counter me and try to cover it up with false smugness.
⌠Are you still trying to stroke you epeen by challenging people to duels?
Seriously⌠even if they duel you it doesnât make you right. It doesnât mean youâre skilled. It just means youâre better than them. Thatâs all a duel means. It means you can beat that 1 specific person.
No one cares about your epeen.
AlsoâŚ
This contradicts your claim that itâs not an esport. Just because itâs not part of MLG anymore, doesnât stop it from being an esport.
Thank you for proving my point further: As I said, having arena rating doesnât make a person right when discussing class ideas, and neither does dueling. They were the ones who brought fighting into this, so I said, cool letâs go then âAND they chickened out. Itâs not my E-peen thatâs fragile here.
Tell that to the ones who brought fighting into this, then conveniently coward behind excuses when called out.
A self contained game that was too broken for competitions does not qualify as an E-Sport.
You arenât the arbiter of what qualifies as an esport. The MLG are not the arbiters of what qualifies as an esport. Sorry, but thems the breaks.
The fact that you wonât just ignore them shows your epeen is just as fragile. For real⌠let it go.
Never said I was, but the people who are laughed this game out. And yes they are because Blizz could have maintained WoWâs epic status if they had cleaned up their act instead of having flavor of the month classes. Tournaments are a huge source of advertising and bringing in money, so yeah, thems the breaks.
Hardly, itâs giving my post bumps and I never back down. Iâll keep grinding their pathetic arguments into the ground until they give up or admit theyâre wrong.
All I asked for was a clean discussion on the subject, but people like Bepples and Scabber interrupted that discussion with trivial E-peen nonsense. Read back and youâll see.
Youâre attacking the wrong person.
this cause if anyone that played pre wotlk would know that survival and hunter melee abilities was only there because there was a dead zone where we could not attack when in close range with a ranged weapon thus having melee abilities.
the only thing blizzard can do to fix survival is put it back to its rightful place as ranged where it is supposed to be and never should have changed.
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