Suggestions to improve M+

Be carried into 12s because your key doesnt deplete and you keep relisting every 4 minutes until you get a group that can carry you means you have no right being in 12

It would still deplete but only to the level you should be at.

If you +3 a 9 into a 12 you would still deplete down to 10 if that 9 was lowest key

And this leads right back to:

Until you hit your 11. Rinse and repeat.

Bad idea. No

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We don’t balance the system around bad actors, why do you care if someone else is doing that anyway, you would realize it right away and move on

Which is why the system was designed for friends and guilds and not PuG systems. And the system is fine as is

It can still cause issues in friend group, one mistake and you have to waste 30 minute bringing the key back up, cause mistakes happen in every group

Friends group wont care
They wont curse the system
Theyre not asking for changes
They understand how it works and accept the risks

Youre not understanding that the system is fine.

Blues have discussed that the system is working as intended, key depletion is meant to happen, as is the randomness of which keys you get.

If your consistent group is routinely failing to the point it is a problem, that means that the system is effective at giving keys that you can do by bumping you back down.

I mean, no one likes wasting 20-30 minutes redoing a key cause someone butt pulled on accident

They just accept it because that’s what it is

But it would hurt no one to give it a shot for a fake season

Doesn’t have to be consistent, even once is annoying

You’re not redoing a key. That’d be the option if they never deplete.

Yea you are, if you’re already done with all 11s, and you make a mistake that bricks a 12, you have to redo an 11

  1. That’s not redoing a key. You are doing the dungeon you earned. Redoing would be if you could fail and keep retrying over and over without depletion.
  2. If you are failing the next rank of key, you have to play the game and improve. You’re given the opportunity to do that and improve your score in the process in the new key

It’s really hard to improve when you can’t go back and fix your mistakes easily, you’re forced into an easier key and then have a new random one

It would be like failing an mythic raid boss and having to redo it on heroic every time you wiped

Each m+ run is akin to a raid boss. More or less

The first 2-3 bosses are easy
Middle 2-3 bosses are what the difficulties are about
Last 2-3 are the true challenges

If you cant beat a tier of bosses, your farm the easier bosses, or you try and fail until you get it.

So that is how its like. Plus the next week it resets and you have to redo them all any way. Barring the one time extension

Eh, it’s not one time, you can extend week to week

So its working as intended.

Well still, you lose out on all prior bosses gear and experience and lose out, especially if you continue to cannon fodder it week after week with no progress

M+ is just terrible right now, most of my friends have quit the game over it and I am being completely serious. I have not even played because I cannot get into groups and my circle of friends are fed up with it completely.

Pretty common practice for mythic raid guilds though, bout halfway through the season they extend til the end